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How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 23:00
by Jim San
Have searched dimensions and found the following on wiki..
Length 4,569 mm (179.9 in)
Width 1,844 mm (72.6 in)
Height 1,928 mm (75.9 in)
But for what I want its a bit vague.
I want to know approx internal surface area so I can order sounproofing and insulation materials. (sides and roof) glss in slider and opposite panel bt rest is panel.
I would measure my van but its half and hour drive away.
I could guesstimate the area but if someone has the info to hand alls the better

Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 17:50
by Jim San
Anyone ?
Any chance someone could nip out to their van and run a measure - or point me to a source of info if one exists

Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 18:33
by Bucketbabe
Hi Jim, it's piddling down round here, but if you remind me I'll pop out tomorrow with a tape.
Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 23:28
by Jim San
Bucketbabe wrote:Hi Jim, it's piddling down round here, but if you remind me I'll pop out tomorrow with a tape.
Cheers Fiona

spring is almost here, weekends away are should be being planned.
Things will be easier once T5 is sold and T3 is plated (plates pending)
Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 00:56
by ELVIS
For sound deadening what are you planning on using?
If you are using dynomat/flash band etc, you don't need to cake every square inch. Just a big old square in the middle of each panel, more than factory but not that much more.
I am not an accoustic engineer but after reading quite a bit written by professionals there is three main sources of noise IIRC.
Panel vibration -hence use of dynomat etc.
Amplification - voids and spaces behind door cards/panels etc acting similar to a 'boom box' or speaker cabinet behind a speaker. Space allowing sound to bounce around. This is killed by soft fluffy stuff, proper accoustic foam/insulation behind panels/door cards and interior panels covered in softer cloth to absorb waves/sound.
External noise - wind etc. make sure all seals/wind stops are in fine fettle and the above two points also add to prevention.
Think that's as much as I can remember for now but plenty on net

Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 12:02
by Bucketbabe
Jim San wrote:Bucketbabe wrote:Hi Jim, it's piddling down round here, but if you remind me I'll pop out tomorrow with a tape.
Things will be easier once T5 is sold and T3 is plated (plates pending)
Good grief, you're having it plated?
I can't even afford a re spray!

Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 17:40
by Bucketbabe
Hope this helps.
Roof: 127 x 340 cm
Front door: 100 x 60 cm
Tailgate: 144 x 44 cm
Slider door: 110 x 90 cm
Rear panel: 150 x 130 cm
Windows: 100 x 45 cm
If this isn't what your looking for, shout out as van staying on drive for another week ( Bustypes prepping)
Re: How much surface area is there to cover?
Posted: 01 Apr 2014, 22:00
by Jim San
Many thanks guys, thanks for the info. I lost track of this thread.
Elvis, I visited an acoustic specialists and got some prices. With the soundproofing membrane and then the insulation it suddenly became a sizable amount
I take your point about the soundproofing not being needed all over - i was wondering how much would be optimal + I am also planning on floor areas.
Then I was looking at the silver sided foam (like used in engine bays) and figured that anything stuck to the walls would stop the re-verb and act as soundproofing and if its the insulation then bonus - could this remove the need to have soundproofing membrane on the side walls? I'm thinking yes.
I would stick a couple of large squares of the soundproofing membrane on the roof to kill the vibration and then have egg box type foam covering every inch as its much lighter and less likely to interfere with the roof lining.
I hadnt planned on completely filling the cavity between skin and cards this time! I thought having stuff stuck to inside of skin and stuff stuck to back of card panels would kill the noise, it would insulate enough yet remove any doubt of moisture trap. Will read up on this but I think allowing circulation would remove moisture and insulation would be suffiently effective
I dont know how much benefit there is from insulation anyway! when its hot - its still bloomin hot in the van and when its cold its brrr. I spent a small fortune on stuff to do my T5 and it didnt miraculously create a micro-climate.
As I will have an erber in the T3 I can get warm if I need to and accept there will be heat loss, I will still revert to opening a window when its hot. Killing the noise is more important.
If I had double glazed windows on the van then maybe insulation has more bearing, I just dont think the cost is justified unless someone can educate me otherwise.