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problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 21:47
by Gary.pb
I have recently bought a new Dometic RM 123 fridge to fit into my camper. Last year I put in a second hand interior which had space for a fridge which my van didn't have previously. I have trial fitted the fridge and the exhaust flue (which has no adjustment) would need to exit the van right on the part of the panel where it rebates in and out. I clearly cant put a vent here and I cant move the fridge higher or lower. Has anybody else experienced anything similar??? If so what did you do?? Is it possible to purchase some sort of flexible flue?

Any help would be gratefully received as I am a bit stumped on this one.

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 23:38
by Plasticman
i and i think many others have a section of SS flexi, it can exit through the swaged area but it needs an adaptor making up etc
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Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 09:01
by 1664
Flexible pipe to exhaust flue viewed through external upper vent. Join to the fridge exhaust circled in yellow.

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With flexible pipe disconnected

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Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 10:25
by Plasticman
hehe, sorry cant extract single picks from the thread but half way down here
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... 6&start=15" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
shows the alternative method :shock: was like it for years
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Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 11:18
by B.A Eauty
Hi not sure about the pics, but when i fitted a new domestic fridge i needed the new type vents which the flue slots into.

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 13:53
by shepster
Mines the same as the one in the photo's above, been in for about 5 yrs.

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 15:06
by billybigspud
shepster wrote:Mines the same as the one in the photo's above, been in for about 5 yrs.

Detached :shock:

I use that aluminium tape on all of the joints as well just to be safe

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 15:38
by 1664
billybigspud wrote:Detached :shock:
It was detached in order for me to remove the fridge you muppet. :lol:

It's attached in the previous picture and the stiffness of the pipe holds it securely in place.

There's far too much exaggeration with regards to fridge gas exhaust, there's barely any and in the case of vans with vents as well as a flue it wouldn't matter if the pipe became detached as the air flow through the vents would easily disperse the virtually negligible exhaust gas.

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 17:32
by kevtherev
1. Only the approved Dometic (formerly Electrolux) flue kit must
be used.
2. The flue top must be secured using the screw provided to avoid the
risk of restriction.
3. Allow 5mm clearance between the flue pipe and combustible material
in the wall of the Caravan/Campervan to avoid fire risk.
4. Provide a minimum of 10mm clearance between the end of the flue
pipe and the flue top to avoid distortion of the flue cover.
5. Fit the perforated flue cap to avoid dirt and moisture ingress and
to prevent accidental flame blowout.
6. Ensure that the gap between the flue cap and the inner surface of
the flue cover always exceeds 5mm to avoid the risk of restriction.
7. On the non-integrated flue system sealant should only be applied
between the outer flue cover and the flange plate of the flue tube at
the top and side only. It should not be applied behind the flue tube
flange plate.

no sealing tape please :tsk
Hot gas needs to draw cool air into the exhaust.

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 17:55
by fairwynds
had mine refitted last year and certified by a Gasafe engineer (at same time as Propex etc). Lots of measuring took place! The last thing to be fitted was (at his insistance) a heatproof sleeve around the top part of the exhaust, that connects to the outer flue. Having just taken a peek at it it still leaves a gap (ie: is not taped to...) at the lower end. Effectively it's a collar preventing any heat transfer to anything nearby. Pain in the a** when being done but glad all sorted now. That's all good info there Kev... :ok

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 17:59
by kevtherev
Heat transfer...were the words I was looking for.. cheers fairwynds

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:06
by Gary.pb
1664 wrote:Flexible pipe to exhaust flue viewed through external upper vent. Join to the fridge exhaust circled in yellow.

Image

With flexible pipe disconnected

Image

I recon this is pretty much what I need to be doing, thanks a lot for that :ok

out of interest how did you get the flexible pipe out the van. Im assuming it is joined to a riged straight section just before it goes through the panel?

I will have a little look online tonight to see where I can order some flexi pipe.

I had almost decided that running the fridge on gas would be more hastle than its worth and that perhaps I should just run it off the leisure battery. Then I worked out how long the leisure battery would last before being flat and realised I was being a lazy git and should fit it properly :lol: :lol:

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:09
by Gary.pb
kevtherev wrote:1. Only the approved Dometic (formerly Electrolux) flue kit must
be used.
2. The flue top must be secured using the screw provided to avoid the
risk of restriction.
3. Allow 5mm clearance between the flue pipe and combustible material
in the wall of the caravan/Campervan to avoid fire risk.
4. Provide a minimum of 10mm clearance between the end of the flue
pipe and the flue top to avoid distortion of the flue cover.
5. Fit the perforated flue cap to avoid dirt and moisture ingress and
to prevent accidental flame blowout.
6. Ensure that the gap between the flue cap and the inner surface of
the flue cover always exceeds 5mm to avoid the risk of restriction.
7. On the non-integrated flue system sealant should only be applied
between the outer flue cover and the flange plate of the flue tube at
the top and side only. It should not be applied behind the flue tube
flange plate.

no sealing tape please :tsk
Hot gas needs to draw cool air into the exhaust.

Blimey, the things we have to go through to ensure we have cold beer :wink:

Thanks for the info, much appreciated

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:29
by Gary.pb
Would something like this be suitable

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alloy-Alumini ... 43ace0d052" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To be honest I don't know how hot fridges run at.
The ad states that it is heat resistant but would that be sufficient or would I need something more substantial?

Re: problems fitting exhaust flue on new instalation

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 20:06
by billybigspud
1664 wrote:
billybigspud wrote:Detached :shock:
It was detached in order for me to remove the fridge you muppet. :lol:

It's attached in the previous picture and the stiffness of the pipe holds it securely in place.

There's far too much exaggeration with regards to fridge gas exhaust, there's barely any and in the case of vans with vents as well as a flue it wouldn't matter if the pipe became detached as the air flow through the vents would easily disperse the virtually negligible exhaust gas.

:lol: