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No Spark

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 17:19
by laurenlee99
Hi there,
Ive just bought a 1.9 panel van that has had new coil, plugs and dizzy etc fitted before i got it but still does not want to spark unless i put a lead from the top of the coil to the engine block. After i have done this it will start on the button for half a dozen times then i will have to do it again... any ideas please???
many thanks
Tommy

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 07:57
by Whitevanman
Bad earths?

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 12:49
by laurenlee99
I've tried to put a thick earth from chassis to engine block but it still didn't fire. :? Could it be a coil fault? Haven't really got the cash to call a mechanic at the mo and I'm sure it must be something and nothing as it runs sweet as a nut when it fires?? Help please!

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 13:04
by 1664
When you say "top of the coil to the engine block" do you bean the metal body of the coil?

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 13:31
by laurenlee99
No, on top of the coil is a terminal with 2 green wires, I put it from there to the engine block and it sparks a few times but then fires. I can remove the wire and it will start fine for 5 or 6 times then will go dead again! Frustrating! Thanks for answering.

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:00
by 1664
There's an earth point below the coil with a brown 1.5mm cable attached. Try removing. cleaning and reattaching. Also check connection at the other end of it which is terminal 2 of the 'TDI Control Unit' (whatever that is :? ). Also, while it's disconnected, check the continuity if you have a multimeter.

This is just a guess based on the wiring diagram by the way :wink:

EDITED due to truly abysmal spelling :oops:

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:08
by laurenlee99
Thanks will try that now!

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:26
by laurenlee99
Right, I've just tried the brown earth under the coil to the brown earth on the engine block and have continuity :? .
I've just tried the wire thing again and it starts and runs great... After a while of stopping and starting, I have to do it again or it won't spark?? I'm sure I'm just missing something...

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:36
by 1664
laurenlee99 wrote:Right, I've just tried the brown earth under the coil to the brown earth on the engine block and have continuity :? .
Did you do it disconnected and to the other end on the TCI unit?

after this I'm out of ideas other than swapping out components

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:39
by laurenlee99
Is the tci unit the flat thing with the flat plug attached to the bottom of it? Sorry for being vague! :?

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 15:38
by 1664
Looks like this apparently
http://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_TCI ... 198926.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The coil connection you are earthing is the negative side of the coil's primary which is connected to the TCI. The TCI is itself earthed via pin 2 to the earth point below the coil via that brown cable. Like I say it's a guess based on the wiring diagram on Page 12.23 of the Haynes manual.

Re: No Spark

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 15:56
by 1664
I think it's the object mounted on square silver plate on the engine bay wall just to the front of the coil in this picture (I think)

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hopefully someone can confirm this.....