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Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 20:31
by sternal
Registration finally arrived today ! Hooray

Took it for a spin as you do !

Is the radiator fan permanently on a very low setting ? I put my ear to the rad and it sounds like its going round though I can't be sure as I thought it was the sound of the engine but it cant be as its to far away !

Obviously on my car I can hear/see it when the fan kicks in !

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 21:37
by kevtherev
no..
1st speed is about 87 deg.. secondspeed is 97 or something like that
the rad fan switch decides all that

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 21:43
by sternal
thanks for the quick reply :ok

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 21:53
by California Dreamin
sternal wrote:Registration finally arrived today ! Hooray

Took it for a spin as you do !

Is the radiator fan permanently on a very low setting ? I put my ear to the rad and it sounds like its going round though I can't be sure as I thought it was the sound of the engine but it cant be as its to far away !

Obviously on my car I can hear/see it when the fan kicks in !

Even on 1st speed these cooling fans are pretty loud. I can't imagine for one second having to strain to hear if it was on.....are you sure it's not the 'blower motor' inside the cab that you are hearing?

Martin

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 21:57
by sternal
I checked and that and it wasnt the inside blower :P

just looked at the wiki page and will test it in the morning with a bit of wire

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 10:28
by sternal
engine running did all the tests and no fan, dropped the spare wheel



checked fuse first on left and that's fine

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the van isn't over heating but I obviously would want the fan working !

can I connect the fan direct to 12v ? via leisure battery ?

check ground where and how ?

any other checks ?

is a new fan a big job ?

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 10:39
by Oldiebut goodie
Check this post out https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... tery+relay - blown fuse/dicky relay?

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 11:03
by California Dreamin
The fan motors are generally reliable so more likely a wiring fault...earth point issues.
Try giving the fan a direct live & earth

Martin

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 11:05
by sternal
will give it a direct feed this arvo ?

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 11:34
by sternal
okay an update !

there isnt a no.5 relay ?!?!? which according to the linky above thats the rad fan relay

this looks a bit rusty ?



whats this could it be the no.5 relay ?

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 11:55
by Oldiebut goodie
That looks like an indicator relay.

No.5 relay is marked "53" top row, 5th from left.

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 11:59
by sternal
ok so there isnt no.5 relay in...

Image

I take it it should be there for the rad fan to work...and is this the reason I couldnt trigger the fan to work ?

why would it be missing ?

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 12:17
by Oldiebut goodie
If you have a 2 stage fan that is the 2nd stage relay and the main one is that 70A one above the earth crowns. If you only have a single speed fan no.5 should be the only one that you have. Either way there should be a relay there as I see it. (I would have expected it to be a 2 stage fan as you have 3 pins on the connector)

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 12:54
by sternal
70A one above the earth crowns

thats not there and doesnt look as if it ever was

so if i get a no.5 relay the fan should work when I do the rad fan test ? (if all wiring is okay... :roll: )

Re: Radiator fans is it on permanently ?

Posted: 05 Oct 2013, 13:35
by Oldiebut goodie
So long as the wiring hasn't been interfered with you will then have a better chance of getting to the bottom of what is going on. Have you got 2 or 3 wires going into the switch connector? Have you checked for any voltage at that connector?