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Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 17:00
by 1_eyed_jim
Basically when I press the clutch pedal the biting point is really high like so high if you lightly ride the clutch by accident the engine slips. Is the clutch plate worn out? It had a new master, slave cylinder and thrust bearing from Brickwerks last year.
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 19:14
by kevtherev
hand brake on full and hard
in first.. let the clutch out
if it stalls then the clutch is ok
they either work or don't work.
when was it last changed?
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 19:27
by 1_eyed_jim
I have no idea when it was last changed I've done about 15,000 miles in about 3 years and has done 162,000 now. So will try what you suggested and let you know the outcome.
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 22:44
by CovKid
You'll sure notice clutch slip going up very steep inclines when its just about finished.
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 23:36
by California Dreamin
You are describing typical clutch wear symptoms. Obviously not completely worn out at this time but sounds close.
Martin
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 07:43
by Ian Hulley
California Dreamin wrote:You are describing typical clutch wear symptoms. Obviously not completely worn out at this time but sounds close.
Martin
Yep, why replace the release bearing and not the plate and cover ? Sounds like 3 hours of your life you'll have to waste there for nothing.
Ian
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 10:33
by 1_eyed_jim
Ian Hulley wrote:California Dreamin wrote:You are describing typical clutch wear symptoms. Obviously not completely worn out at this time but sounds close.
Martin
Yep, why replace the release bearing and not the plate and cover ? Sounds like 3 hours of your life you'll have to waste there for nothing.
Ian
Gearbox was replaced.

Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 10:41
by Ian Hulley
But not the clutch ?
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 11:16
by 1_eyed_jim
Ian Hulley wrote:But not the clutch ?
No as funds were tight at the time.
kevtherev wrote:hand brake on full and hard
in first.. let the clutch out
if it stalls then the clutch is ok
they either work or don't work.
when was it last changed?
Tried the above and it stalls straight away so I guess this is good right

Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 11:33
by California Dreamin
Like I said, the fact that it is not slipping means it's good to use, only trouble is, the lightest touch on the clutch pedal or hard acceleration 'between changing gears' will result in momentary slip whilst the clutch grips the cover and flywheel. This constant excess of slipping, even if it's not actually doing it in gear, will accelerate that last bit of wear that is left.
You can be sure that it might not be slipping now but it won't be long.
Martin
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 11:40
by 1_eyed_jim
California Dreamin wrote:Like I said, the fact that it is not slipping means it's good to use, only trouble is, the lightest touch on the clutch pedal or hard acceleration 'between changing gears' will result in momentary slip whilst the clutch grips the cover and flywheel. This constant excess of slipping, even if it's not actually doing it in gear, will accelerate that last bit of wear that is left.
You can be sure that it might not be slipping now but it won't be long.
Martin
Thanks. So sounds like I need to get this changed before the planned trip to France next month!

Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 11:43
by California Dreamin
Yup......I wouldn't risk a long trip, probably fine locally.
Clutch is around £110 with 3 hours fitting.....I doubt you can buy just the plate and cover but you never know.
Martin
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 12:10
by 1_eyed_jim
California Dreamin wrote:Yup......I wouldn't risk a long trip, probably fine locally.
Clutch is around £110 with 3 hours fitting.....I doubt you can buy just the plate and cover but you never know.
Martin
Thanks I will get on with it ASAP. Need to get the MOT out of the way first

Read somewhere that I don't need to remove the driveshafts from the gearbox when changing the clutch. Is this correct? Just leave the box dangling by the shafts and CV's??

Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 12:44
by Ian Hulley
1_eyed_jim wrote:California Dreamin wrote:Yup......I wouldn't risk a long trip, probably fine locally.
Clutch is around £110 with 3 hours fitting.....I doubt you can buy just the plate and cover but you never know.
Martin
Thanks I will get on with it ASAP. Need to get the MOT out of the way first

Read somewhere that I don't need to remove the driveshafts from the gearbox when changing the clutch. Is this correct? Just leave the box dangling by the shafts and CV's??

I wouldn't. There are other things you need to check up on ... especially if you're thinking of going aboroad. In fact I would be revisiting any other jobs that were done in the same fashion ... it's a VERY long walk home.
Ian
Re: Is my clutch on its way out?
Posted: 18 Jun 2013, 15:21
by kevtherev
California Dreamin wrote:Like I said, the fact that it is not slipping means it's good to use, only trouble is, the lightest touch on the clutch pedal or hard acceleration 'between changing gears' will result in momentary slip whilst the clutch grips the cover and flywheel. This constant excess of slipping, even if it's not actually doing it in gear, will accelerate that last bit of wear that is left.
You can be sure that it might not be slipping now but it won't be long.
Martin
The clutch slips during normal operation even withth a new clutch
It does not slip under load therefore its good.
The usable friction material is only a few mmm thick any way.
I would not be concerned.