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Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:31
by cosmicsheep
Sat at the roadside waiting for the RAC. Had a breakdown with big plumes of smoke from engine.
Oil light came on so stopped at a motor factors and bought some 15w40 mineral oil.
Now thinking it maybe should have been synthetic?
If I have got it wrong and mixed my oils, what damage am I likely to have done? Terminal?

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:42
by bigherb
cosmicsheep wrote: If I have got it wrong and mixed my oils, what damage am I likely to have done? Terminal?
None. Mineral and synthetic oils are miscible.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:50
by ghost123uk
Sorry to hear your engine has died Stephen, glad you are with the RAC at least. It won't have been the oil you put in, but if the light had come on it is likely that it was very low on oil and this damaged the motor, or summat was on the edge of failing, and now has

Hope you find a replacement soon and cheap.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:53
by Mocki
Mineral oil in a DG .
Oil light coming on either means low oil level or low oil pressure .
Oil level low add oil. Oil level not low but added oil , overfill = loads of oily smoke as it burns it off !

Of coarse it maybe more serious , it needs proper inspection now , good luck

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:55
by ghost123uk
cosmicsheep wrote: Oil light came on so stopped at a motor factors and bought some 15w40 mineral oil.

I just read that again, was it an amazing coincidence that the oil light came on just as you where passing a motor factors, or do you mean it came on so you drove it to a motor factors ?

If the latter, well

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 10:36
by Ian Hulley
Mocki wrote: Oil level low add oil. Oil level not low but added oil , overfill = loads of oily smoke as it burns it off !

Been there, done that when the terminal came off the B.O.D. sensor near the oil pump.

On an '89 DG you would/should have had the buzzer of doom come on if you had low oil pressure ? Check the wire that goes to the sensor between the nearside push rod tubes, make sure it's not rubbing on and earthing out on the tube guard.

Ian

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 11:57
by cosmicsheep
Thanks guys, you were spot on. Oil level wasn't low and I overfilled it.
RAC man drained some out but oil in carb and everywhere. Still not running right but off to garage for a checkup.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 12:57
by Mocki
So...... Keep us informed on the outcome, and the reason the oil light came on, and if the BoD made its presence known please.....

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 20:26
by what2do
This has got me thinking, oooh it hurts!!!! Is there a way of checking that the BOD actually works? I regularly check my oil (it weeps a little here and there), plan on fitting a pressure gauge BUT would like to think that the BOD would give me a heads-up should the need arise. Mitch.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 23:02
by Ian Hulley
What year/engine type is your van ... add those details to your signature so we can help you.

Ian

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 09:15
by Aidan
what2d wrote:This has got me thinking, oooh it hurts!!!! Is there a way of checking that the BOD actually works? I regularly check my oil (it weeps a little here and there), plan on fitting a pressure gauge BUT would like to think that the BOD would give me a heads-up should the need arise. Mitch.


to test the system, disconnect the two pin plug with the oil sender feeds (Brown both, front left of engine bay), one is low pressure and one is high pressure, work out which is which, high pressure is at rear on engine down by the bottom pulley - earth the low pressure contact on the plug going to the dash and start engine, oil light will flash and go out, rev it to over 2000rpm and bod should go off and light flash, earth the high pressure contact and it won't

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 10:31
by what2do
Just the info I was after, thanks.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 21:13
by cosmicsheep
Never been sure if my bod works either. Bus has previously had an aftermarket oil pressure gauge fitted which was reading ok ( if only I'd looked at that before topping up - or checked the dipstick) oh, we'll, lesson learned.
And yes, the oil light came on as I was passing a motor spares shop
Awaiting the verdict from the garage tomorrow, will keep you informed.

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 21:25
by Ian Hulley
After just switching the engine off there's very little engine oil on the stick even with 4.5 litres in .... it's all playing hide & seek round the oily bits for quite some time till it get's bored and returns to the 'sump'.

Ian

Re: Which oil?

Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 21:46
by Mocki
if mr volks thought it needed a oil gauge, he would have fitted one.....