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Hello!
This is from the wiki:

MERCEDES
Model P.C.D. Offset C/Bore
All (except below) 5 x 112 35...42 66.5
SL models 5 x 112 18...25 66.5
A Class, Vito 5 x 112 45...50 66.5
Sprinter 5 x 130 45
Vito/ML 16"x6.5J/PCD 5x112/ET47/Bore 66.5
ML up to 2/2002 16" 5x112 62 66.5
ML 2/2002 onwards 17" 5x112 52 66.5

Whilst looking on websites for the right look of wheels for our van I notice that the centre bore dimension is rarely provided. All you normally get is the PCD, Rim Diameter and width.
Am I right in assuming that if I use the websites search feature and pretend I'm looking for wheels for one of the above vehicles that they will fit?
I am aware that I may have to find some spigot rings and spacers to correct the offset.
I am also aware that they would need to be suitably weight rated

the sprinter ones will not fit. PCD is that of a Porsche.
The Brickyard has a good section on it as well. VW Passat, Audi A4,A6 have the majority 112. Also some Bentley ones are. You will probably have to have some machining done on most of them to be honest.

Cheers Billy,
I think what I'm trying to say is-
If I go on a wheel website and it asks your vehicle type and you start looking for a T25 it doesn't show up. But if you put in that you have a Merc ML the site must assume that for the sites wheels to fit they must meet the spec for a ML which we know from the fact that ML wheels fit T25s have the correct PCD, a useable offset and importantly a centre bore which is just a tad over the 66mm minimum for a T25. Also an ML isn't the lightest thing and our van is a caravelle so will only have a R&R bed in the back so weight rating would need to be similar and therefore can't be an issue?

Please can someone correct me if i'm spouting rubbish!

nope you're spot on
I have ML's on my van

and they are ace!

Nice wheels.
I assume that you had them powder coated /painted. They do look very new!
Was offset a problem or did you have to fit spacers? Tyre size?

I am looking into getting a pair for my 1990 Westy

Thanks

10 mm spacers all round (but not essential.)
Longer studs, radiused nuts.
215/60 X 16

the set on the orange van were original silver.. mine were painted with white two pack rather than coated.

Thanks for the reply.
My tyres are 185. Would the width of 215 be too much to clear arches etc?
As you have increased the tyre size from original, is the speedo accurate?
Sorry for all the questions

I have the same rims with 215/65 r 16 with 20mm spacers allround - no clearance issues.

If you have a jx1,6 TD it will not like big hills.
Mine went over the M62 in top at 100 kph.

nobbyfox wrote:Thanks for the reply.
My tyres are 185. Would the width of 215 be too much to clear arches etc?
As you have increased the tyre size from original, is the speedo accurate?
Sorry for all the questions

no, the tyre diameter is the same, only the wheel rim diameter has increased... Remember the original tyre size from the factory is 185/82 X R 14". see the wiki for the tyre calculator for your choice of rim size
So the speedo is as accurate as it ever was
yes they clear the arches, even with a lowered van as the orange one is....because the ET has not changed outside the VW spec

Hoorah!!

Thanks for the info. BTW did you buy new wheels or source from Ebay?

I don't use Ebay..
I bought them off an 80-90 member

ok thanks for the reply.

So MSW 22 wheels in black like these
are available with the following spec -
PCD 5 x 112 (perfect)
ET 45 (useable with 10mm spacers)
Centrebore 57.01mm or 73.01mm (73.01 with spigot down to 66 will work)
16x6.5j (easy to find commercial tyre to fit without changing original wheel and tyre diameter - speedo unaffected
Max Weight - 680kg per wheel - This is where it may be a deal breaker. Does anyone have any opinion on the weight rating of these wheels given that our van is a caravelle with just a rock and roll bed in the back and a little bit of camping gear?

No obvious objections then?
I think that is that sorted!

the design of the wheel does give the impression that they will be very strong due to the very open spoke style