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Waterless Coolant

Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 11:04
by GoldSyncro
Is anyone using waterless engine coolant? I'm also interested to find out what people are using in their intercoolers?

Thanks

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 08:43
by KarlT
"For you Captain, the war is over. Into the cooler!"

Any help? :D

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 11:14
by GoldSyncro
Entertaining but no....

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 12:08
by Trundler
When you say 'waterless', it can't actually be waterless can it? :)

Do you mean pre-mixed?

As far as intercoolers go, I'd have though they were air to air so don't have anything in them..? Unless you mean an oil cooler, which would have engine oil in it, or the coolant radiator itself, which just has engine coolant.

For what it's worth, mine has any old 10w40 engine oil in it and a mixture of water and anti-freeze in the cooling system. I try to keep the mixture to at least 50% anti-freeze, which is more than adequate for the British climate. In a really cold place like Finland or Siberia, perhaps the system would be filled with 100% anti-freeze but I've no experience of that.

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 12:17
by AdrianC
Trundler wrote:When you say 'waterless', it can't actually be waterless can it? :)

Yep, there are truly waterless coolants on the market.
http://www.evanscoolants.co.uk/classic-cool-180.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There's also air-water intercoolers/charge-coolers, with a separate coolant circuit to the engine.

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 13:39
by keith
i run water and antifreeze(coolant) in my charge cooler....mixed at roughly 70 / 30 in favour of the "coolant"

i like the idea of waterless coolant though ....

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 14:34
by GoldSyncro
It's the Evans product I'm talking about, sorry I should have been more specific. They claim once used it never needs changing. I was also wondering if it could be used in an intercooler/charge-cooler.

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 16:02
by HarryMann
perhaps the system would be filled with 100% anti-freeze but I've no experience of that
.

50/50 is pretty well optimum here, i think 70/30 best for v.low temps as some actually revert to freezing or slushing at just below 0 C when neat 100 %

Also, above 50/50 heat transfer reduces, creating probs when ambient temps increase.

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 19:43
by HarryMann
http://www.3si.org/forum/f11/dumping-ev ... up-206021/

Robert, This discussion is worth reading....

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 21:32
by slobbo
I was going to go waterless. Maybe not now. :idea

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 22:26
by Syncrobaz
I was interested (f1 cars use it to increase heat dispersal) Thought it would cure the WBX corrosion issues :idea

but at £60 per 5ltrs plus £38 for prep.fluid (5ltrs) to purge any traces of water from the system, I will stick with
50% mix pink a/freeze/distilled water :) :)

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 12:52
by GoldSyncro
Sort of come to the same conclusion. Although I'm still thinking of using it in my charge-cooler - fill and forget??

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 17:39
by nicq
Syncrobaz wrote:I was interested (f1 cars use it to increase heat dispersal) :) :)


I think you will find its more for temp boiling point as water temp normally in f1 is around 100c but grid temp goes up 120/130 to get over it they run pressurised at 2.5 bar

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 18:56
by HarryMann
... and of course, the RR Merlin installations in Spits, Mossies, Lancs etc, not to forget the venerable Hurricane, used neat Glycol... so you'd be in good company !!!

Re: Waterless Coolant

Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 20:12
by GoldSyncro
No wonder they exploded on impact!!