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Rcd mcb
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 14:40
by Technobadger
Ive looked about for a replacment main mcb rcd for my 91 Westy California but can't seem to find a supplier.
Anybody know of one ???

Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 18:25
by colinthefox
These protective devices are really more of a house wiring item than a vehicle spare, so you could take your old unit along to your friendly local Electrical Wholesaler who will probably have a replacement in stock. They are pretty much all interchangeable as most now have a standard dimensional system (DIN rail), so it doesn't really matter which manufacturer you end up with, as long as the rating is the same.
I use City Electrical Factors in Launceston, but they may have a branch nearer to you.
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 25 Dec 2012, 09:09
by 1664
colinthefox wrote:They are pretty much all interchangeable as most now have a standard dimensional system (DIN rail), so it doesn't really matter which manufacturer you end up with, as long as the rating is the same.
I have a dark and distant memory of this cropping up years ago and IIRC the one fitted to westys isn't 'standard' although it certainly looks like it is from the front.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.......
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 26 Dec 2012, 13:22
by Technobadger
No it's not standard it's a panel type breaker.
I could fit standard rcd in front of the existing one but I would prefer to exchange the stock part.
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 26 Dec 2012, 16:59
by colinthefox
Ah, life's never as simple as it should be, is it?
Could you post a piccy? I might recognise the type from my memory banks.
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 28 Dec 2012, 14:59
by billybigspud
Does it not have a German equivalent to a BS number on it?
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 28 Dec 2012, 17:14
by 1664
It'll probably have an EN number (or a predecessor of EN) on it but that is to demonstrate conformity to electrical performance criteria rather than the physical breaker design/configuration. BS EN61008 and BS EN61009 are the modern british 'EN' numbers for RCCB's and RCBO's (RCD is the generic term for all the different types).
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 09:59
by billybigspud
It would give you a staring point rather than working with nothing. If you ar looking for a BS EN 60898 then it would help you find the correct one even though there are many different types.
Just been looking and they use all the same brands as us anyway.
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 10:56
by 1664
60898's are mcbs not RCDs; besides, I've trawled through bins full of different manufacturers 6 amp BS EN60898 type B mcbs and still not found one that'll fit a certain board before. As I said it confirms electrical performance, not what it will fit.
We already know it'll be a general purpose 30mA RCD of at least 16A rating, whether it's an RCCB or RCBO is the only other consideration and if westys are fitted with separate mcbs even that distinction becomes irrelevant.
I suppose the best option would be to try and track down the old thread where this question arose before but I know it was several years ago and I doubt it still exists.
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 11:46
by Oldiebut goodie
It may be in the archive - trouble is you are searching for three letters which the search engine doesn't like so you will have to trawl through manually!
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 12:13
by 1664
Damn right it doesn't like "RCD"
Best I could find was this (click link).
NinjaTurtle007 retro fitted one with some adjustments with a mcb blanking plate. Perhaps drop him a PM?
http://archive.club8090.co.uk/viewtopic ... y#p7501107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 12:23
by 1664
Just found this too.....
meridian911 wrote:The Westy circuit breaker is actually an rcd as well, same as the ones in most houses but it will trip at 10milliamps of earth leakage current and not 30milliamps like in your house.
from here >
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... y#p7739069" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Don't know if that's correct or not, 10mA seems needlessly low - first I've heard of it

Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 13:39
by billybigspud
[quote="1664"]60898's are mcbs not RCDs; besides, I've trawled through bins full of different manufacturers 6 amp BS EN60898 type B mcbs and still not found one that'll fit a certain board before. As I said it confirms electrical performance, not what it will fit.
We already know it'll be a general purpose 30mA RCD of at least 16A rating, whether it's an RCCB or RCBO is the only other consideration and if westys are fitted with separate mcbs even that distinction becomes irrelevant.
quote]
Surely you are not this obnoxious in real life
Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 14:07
by Oldiebut goodie
billybigspud wrote:1664 wrote:60898's are mcbs not RCDs; besides, I've trawled through bins full of different manufacturers 6 amp BS EN60898 type B mcbs and still not found one that'll fit a certain board before. As I said it confirms electrical performance, not what it will fit.
We already know it'll be a general purpose 30mA RCD of at least 16A rating, whether it's an RCCB or RCBO is the only other consideration and if westys are fitted with separate mcbs even that distinction becomes irrelevant.
quote]
Surely you are not this obnoxious in real life
What got up your nose? Too much white powder.

Re: Rcd mcb
Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 14:27
by billybigspud
Well it is christmas.
