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Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 12:45
by axeman
v-lux wrote:Can those that saw me empty my bash plate on Sunday morning while I was attending to the pesky CV joint make an estimate as to how much muck would have been in my gearbox protection if I had some....?


but your mud smelt bad.

neil

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:06
by silverbullet
Re-reading this,
v-lux wrote:Can those that saw me empty my bash plate on Sunday morning etc... how much muck would have been in my gearbox protection if I had some....?
All bets are off. How much muck was in the front?

At least everyone can dry out in the sunshine the next few days :D

(Unless you're up in the wild Northwest)

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 17:21
by lloydy
Jed say's mines bigger than his :mrgreen:
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Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 19:17
by jed the spread
Do you have data to back that up, thus measuring the zzz zzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :lol:

jed

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:29
by syncropaddy
lloydy wrote:Jed say's mines bigger than his :mrgreen:
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That is a Multivan shield which is different to a van shield. Paul and I had ours out on Monday and noticed they were different. The multivan one is designed to take sound deadening material

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:34
by syncroand101
I thought they were just later shields rather than specific?

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:36
by lloydy
syncropaddy wrote:
lloydy wrote:Jed say's mines bigger than his :mrgreen:
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That is a Multivan shield which is different to a van shield. Paul and I had ours out on Monday and noticed they were different
Wonder why they are different? I initially thought it was maybe another 16" difference

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:37
by Russel
That is a late stile shield and the smaller one is an early diesel shield. If you have an early shield with tinware fitted it it is about the same size.
The latter one gives better protection around the turbo.
You will find late vans with the small one aswell.
Russel

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:41
by lloydy
I've got a load of tinware yet to fit, about 3 inch's of insulation on it

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 20:41
by syncropaddy
Russel at Syncro-Nutz wrote:That is a late stile shield and the smaller one is an early diesel shield. If you have an early shield with tinware fitted it it is about the same size.
The latter one gives better protection around the turbo.
You will find late vans with the small one aswell.
Russel

I have one of each ..... the tinware is different for both of them

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 23:21
by HarryMann
A couple of pounds... (of muck)

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 07 Apr 2011, 00:03
by jebiga41
lloydy wrote:I've got a load of tinware yet to fit, about 3 inch's of insulation on it
all the more places for muck to hide in ?
new beefed up protection due to lack of clearance between original gearbox protection being to near to delicate bits especially inspection plate you can see the indents from bolt heads in the foam

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spacer made out of 8mm nylon
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next 8mm plate steel infront of and behind delicate bits which should reinforce ally plate
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for Andrew dropped oil since rebuild
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again why you need protection just in case you forgot

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Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 22:46
by HarryMann
another half as much again ?

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 23:02
by jebiga41
HarryMann wrote:another half as much again ?
huh?

Re: Diesel Gearbox Protection

Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 23:47
by jed the spread
I have been following this since the first post.

Like I have flagged up its good to see or read some actual facts or at least some controbusions throught actual experiance in gear box protection (especially through driving the engine that is in the origional topic) but.........

I have got to say through reading through this lot Pete/Sharon's contabution that I at first peronally dismissed in my personal experiance in driving Syncro vans (now diesel too) over the past few years with my mates on our trips away, and I think my first thoughts about what they suggested are due for a re think.


PC52 wrote:Beautiful as it is, all this shiny protection.
Have you considered how much heat your trapping in?
How are you going to shed the stones and gravel easily? (jed's vid, evidence of debris collection)

Now, there was a particular van that went to Syncro 25 with wads of protection on and then the owner had loads of spanner moments due to the heat and it had only been on the road getting there.

The fins on the boxes are needed for cooling, simples.
So what you gonna do when you trap it in nice shiny metal? - Cook it, just like a clay baked hedgehog.

You need Air flow
I quite like this one,

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Apart from the fact it's not for the faint hearted, it allows air cooling, debris out and protects the necessities.

jed the spread wrote:With respect Pete that will do F*ck all and bend miles more than the thick bar that bent next to it. If your going to whack it full on, on rocks those tiny little bars wont do any more exept get pushed through the gearbox casing. Then again I dont know that much about things but in this case I am quite sure how and where my van needs protecting abit more through my recent driving experiences, something needs to go over the cross bar as it bends to easy. I dont want to cause a tsunami effect and my gearbox get a blast from floating debris causing loss of life too...

I need at least to try something substantial out as I dont fancy shelling out for another new gearbox to often and I cant calm down with the other lads egging me on :oops:

jed

This for me personally could be the middle ground at least, at taking a whack and spreading a bit of the load and giving air flow. Now at least I understand how the fins work on the gear box moulding (thanks for your input it obviously makes sense this far down the thread) I would be interested in trying or at least looking at the SS part just through the connivance of buying off the shelf. Its a shame nobody in the UK can show one and how it works as in theory it does look quite effective, I for one would be willing to give it a go.

jed