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Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 19:22
by Plasticman
last pick dint come through

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Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 19:44
by lloydy
Great pics, amazing to see all that under there. That dent in the main rad was caused by the bolt on the back of the charge cooler. Soon as I saw it I spaced back the main rad. I had to remove the main rad to get the charge cooler one out and in. Do you reckon the main one will be ok like that? (Don't forget all this was originally fitted by a certain person). It's looking like that chargecooler stuff might not be going back in anyway..
S'funny seeing that outrigger doesn't even reach the end

Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 19:46
by lloydy
Oh, and don't knock pink, better than brown...
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:14
by syncropatrick
lloydy wrote:Oh, and don't knock pink, better than brown...
Spat my tea out.

Anyway, Tutti Fruity!
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:15
by Plasticman
oh the rad is fine , its one of the SA ally ones and really thick walls so no issues, i sort of though that may have been the case, right an evenings tiling now,,,, did you do any maor eresearch on the coolers or are the samba lot still asleep
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Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:37
by lloydy
Nothing that me or you haven't though of
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=582078" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think the idea is a goer personally, what I'd like though is to use a factory intercooler, the one designed for the engine if possible
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Mk3-Golf-V ... 3f2e688f01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Then as you say, sealed off from engine bay and somehow vented out the back. It's just whether a fan is needed (rather not) and if I can find somewhere that sells those air scoops for the rear vent.
Enjoy your tiling

not something I've ever tried
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:41
by Plasticman
you shopuld have kept thhe cooler of that snotter you bought of me

ahh the scoops .. dont, i was driving out to vh to pick the front up and spent the drive working out the neatest way of fitting scoops (that im going to make ), well after doing the racer i thought hmm i will make a pair from ally and get the glass man to m ould them and do them in carbon fibre maybe , very trick..........
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Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:58
by lloydy
it was the same as that one wasn't it

i think that one will fit ok if the bottom of d pillar is being made bigger.
Scoops, making your own...

Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:03
by Plasticman
yes , ive seen the aftermarket ones and think i can do better and they wont need pop riviting etc

Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:04
by ninja.turtle007
With my chargecooler drained I can get really high intake temps. The difference in performance is negligible until around 60+C. This is where I notice a significant difference, especially on long hills. So as long as you can achieve less than 25-30C above ambient temperature you'll be onto a winner.
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:53
by lloydy
i have the same experience as that, i've run mine with the chargecooler not circulating.. to be honest i can't say i noticed much of a difference over 60 either. I have had 60+ on mountain climbs and it didn't feel stiffled. End of the day, these aren't drag cars.. i got a bit hung up on how cool i can get the intake
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 16 Jan 2014, 12:58
by kevtherev
I can well imagine how you feel lloydy.
I kept the cut panel pink just to remind me and the next owner where it came from.
Subscribed...
It's already a must see thread...but boy does it take me back a couple of years

Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 16 Jan 2014, 17:52
by Plasticman
Well.... i dunno kev ,it would scare me to leave my old van with some reprobate to chop up,
now, this picky confirms that they welded the rear portion of the defo panel to the leg priior to reattaching the front

see the lump of weld in the middle
now its off you can see where they used a spot bit to remove the front, nothing wrong with this but only applicable with a genuine untouched area,

this would be a telltale if you had only the grill off

versus original

note how the one they replaced is sat a bit higher up as well
these i will drill right through and use to puddle weld from the rear

cleaned up a bit, nice when the rubbish is out the way

next to prepare the new front
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Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 16 Jan 2014, 18:49
by lloydy
So obviously been a smack after seeing these pics, still find it funny that only one outrigger was damaged?
Re: The GASWAGON (act III)
Posted: 16 Jan 2014, 18:57
by Plasticman
depends on the object hit and speed, but the steel for the main legs is say 4mm then the outriggers are more like 2mm and the idea being that these are supports and will kink and fold in, also the defo section is so dam strong that its happy to pivot around the main leg ,seen it a few times , i figure it hit something low and immovable whilst performing a right turn and say as little as 10mph, just enough momentum to cause this damage, i say immovable ,because knowing the strength of these fronts it would have to be planted well solid, i rule out other vehicles as i cant think of much that would be low enough and solid enough to cause this , again only speculation but....... also there doesnt seem to be any evidence further up the legs/body. be great to get its history and see if it has been written or whatever, who knows , but at least we know its square and the alignment has been good so no issues there
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