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Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 00:25
by Plasticman
well, when you wanted less heat input for one reason. or where it was an area that was say seen as in the case of the braze on this van, the construction is such that the roof and gutter is all one and sits ona composite set of panals and of course the fronnt lip thing that runs down the screen pillar so if the factory were to mig it then how to do it neat without refinishing as you cant get in the corners whereas with braze, especially when new or not been done before you use a touch of flux and is sort of flows into all the areas you apply it to, ,its then quite sparing and doesnt need much finnishing, bit like soldering a pipe I suppose.
If you have a fragile area that is too say too thin to weld then go over the whole lot with braze and its also a very good base for leading,
If you a puddle welding stuff then braze is very good as it flows in real neat and needs very little refinnish,

like this , also if you have a joddled join then you could do a real fast run of brass along that,
mm
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 09:44
by Cableguy
Wish you'd done mine, not that I'm unhappy, just in awe at your skill and attention to detail.
Amazing!!
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 11:26
by mm289
Thanks Mike, something else for me to investigate......
MM
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 18:39
by taffster
As someone without either the skills or knowledge to even begin undertaking work like this I'm totally in awe of your work. Thoroughly enjoy your threads & all the details & pics are helping me to understand what you are doing.
Thank you and I can't wait to see Kevs van finished & being enjoyed again.

Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 19:21
by jimpainter
Cracking work.
Where did you get the rear corner cuts from. Im after a nearside from the airvent down. Tried all the usual suspects then some, but nobody has ant that are even half decent

Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:03
by kevtherev
Hi Jim
I got all the panels that I thought mike would need.
The cut section nearside rear quarter took a year to find, but thanks to our very own trader billy 739 he got me a minter. as he breaks these old vans a caravelle came up and it was cut for me, then delivered to a show
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:54
by quagmire
Bloody hell i've just spent an hour reading this thread!Kev,i can't believe Carol was hiding all these nasty repairs but you have obviously left her in very capable hands.I love to see proper old school fabrication work done to this standard.Can't wait for the next updates and to see her restored to full health soon.Great work fella

Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 21:46
by Plasticman
Ta all, Jim I will call in at my fellas after xmas and have a look whats about that is fit for purpose, pm me to be more specific or if Billy has a decent bit then there you go, keep it in house is always nice

I may not use this cut yet as it will depend on how bad it is under the filler,if its only the edge then may be quicker if not easier to make the piece and lead it up nice neat, shall see in the new year if not before.
Im glad the thread is of interest if for no other reason then to show how stuff is put together and if it gives a bit of insight then it may save time and effort in the future, Ive asked too many questions most of my life but I like to know why things happen ,how they happen and how best to put them right,which in turn helps prevent problems ,
what is interesting is that there are many different ways of doing things and different products out there to use and I also look at how other folk do stuff and use things and you get ideas and try it yourself and see how it goes,
mm
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 14:58
by jimpainter
Kev: Thanks for the info
Mike:Cheers mate that would be a great help. I will let you know if I find something in the meantime.

Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 11:14
by Plasticman
well ,city vacation is all but over

so hope to be getting on this afternoon,seems like ages and just hope i dont need a refresher....
mm
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 29 Dec 2011, 20:41
by Plasticman
Well, back to the misdameaner.
the N/side corner not as bad but makes no odds as its the same process, pickies might noit be up to much as I left camera behind so this is with the phone
Ive already added a small bit to form the inner lip

Ive left the welds rough to show where the bits are that make it up, I have added a bead of weld along a couple of the edges as this is where the previous repairer had taken a grinder to it and left it thinish...

this is with a touch over with a disc and a trial fit for alignment

not right yet, but this is better

the old repairer had pushed the front corners in to allow for the filler to cover the welds, here you can see the new panal is stood proud

where the dots are is where I have pulled it out so it fits as good as I can get it, same on the O/side

weld through primer on both sides and all the other parts

so first job in the morning is finnish this bit off.
then maybe hack the lower front panal rot out the way.
mm
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 10:01
by kevtherev
Mike
does the back of the repair get treatment to inhibit the rust coming back?
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 13:41
by Plasticman
it does as best as can be got at.
mm
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 14:28
by jamesandtheopenroad
Is amazing to see the work. I know it's practice and all that, but it's a natural gift too. Well done ,MM.
Out of interest Kev, how are you gonna have her resprayed? Same as before?
Re: Kevtherevagon
Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 15:10
by pocolow
My Van had a whole front nearside quater panel fitted sometime in the past, but the welder left his Welding clamps under there till I found them last year...
Mark