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kevtherev wrote:Do they change the engine mount then or fit their own stuff?.
I'm sure you know about that, but I'm thinking about the cradles for the box that won't fit to early mounts.

No mention of changing the engine mount asked them a few times about the van having no support brackets. They said they had fit the system to early vans with no problems.

If you look at the speedshop exhaust it says it fits early and late vans and that looks a substantial piece of kit too

I will probably ring them tomorrow just to clarify as sometimes you get a different answer from someone else

Speedshop



JP Exhaust

I'm sure it will fit with no problems, but I would be concerned (probably unecessarily) about all that unsupported weight causing metal fatigue at the welded flanges.
the JP exhaust looks like an early exhaust with a bit more pipe and less box.

it's guaranteed for life so I assume they know what they are doing.

then again you know what assume does?

The speedshop one looks almost identical to my homebrew one in the WIKI but as I used a Kawasaki can, it came with a convenient mounting bracket which can either be bolted to the engine with a metal strap, or as I did, a bungee'd to a convenient spot.

yep makes an ass of u and me
Look I'm probably over reacting here, but i did see a stainless exhaust destroy itself over a few months, due to an unsupported muffler.
..you don't spend all that money for it to crack after a year gauarantees or not, it's the hassle that I'd hate.

Rang them again just to confirm and they said it would be tailor made to the van when it was on the ramp.

you wouldnt think that it would be so hard

The choice seems to be between JK ones, cheap but made from the compressed cardboard, stainless steel , hugely expensive and may have problems with early type set ups as the silencer is not supported, or make your own up using a mixture of parts from different Air cooled VW and bike manufacturers.....

Hobsons choice springs to mind !


When I have replaced exhausts on cars ( and I have replaced lots over the years ) even the cheap non OE ones are expected to last 3 or 4 years before they rot through, I have heard stories of the JK ones rotting within a year.... I know the look / noise that I want to achieve but even the stainless steel ones dont offer much choice in noise level options.

The bluebird one looks like I want, but at over £300 just for the silencer is prohibitive .

If someone made a standard steel system that would last 2 0r 3 years and could sell it at around £200 I think that most people would go for it??

Mart.

pionte wrote:
If someone made a standard steel system that would last 2 0r 3 years and could sell it at around £200 I think that most people would go for it??

Mart.

Personally I'd rather pay £600/£700 and not have to worry about it again, there's enough stuff to worry about every couple of years!

Update:
(see Cruz's other recent thread in Tech too)
am going to local stainless steel pipe specialists near me tomorow, with the old JK mild steel system for my early DG. They have been very keen to help but we wont know til tomorrow whether they can do it/ what they can do / how much etc.
Will post again when I know....
FW

Personally I'd rather pay £600/£700 and not have to worry about it again, there's enough stuff to worry about every couple of years!

£600 would worry me.....

And fairywynds, I too found a local place that does the pipework incl bends for £25 a metre.

Though JP say they will make supports for the silencer on my early van I am still not convinced.

Jp exhaust is £690 fitted

or should I just get Brickwerks to fit a vwspeedshop exhaust for £420+fitting costs as per my original plan???

Flipping VW and their design changes

I changed the mount cost me a tenner.
cradles are plentyfull in the breakers.
then I fitted the later system in steel.. I intend to fit the stainless late system later

By cradle do you mean number 5 on this image 025-199-221A?



And these mounts?

http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php?p ... t&Itemid=6

Seems like a lot more messing

[quote="Cruz"]

If you look at the speedshop exhaust it says it fits early and late vans and that looks a substantial piece of kit too

I will probably ring them tomorrow just to clarify as sometimes you get a different answer from someone else

Speedshop



I like the look of this too, but will the rear valance need some chopping/modificatin to fit? Compared to a stock exhaust it looks like it sticks out too far from the back? Also £325 is not a bad price to bolt up to an Aircooled CU engines heat exchangers.

Others have fit it without reporting the need to chop the valance Paul