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Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 11:30
by bigbadbob76
I'll leave these with you while we go for a sail (paddle?) on the waverly.
Someone's been in here before.

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Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 11:34
by itchyfeet
small cracks are probably OK the studding is not.

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 12:35
by 937carrera
That's twice in a week threaded rod studding has been found. Wonder if it's the same builder :?:

The engine looks nice & clean internally, not much sign of carbon, I wonder how old the rebuild is ?

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 17:46
by bigbadbob76
itchyfeet wrote:small cracks are probably OK the studding is not.

Cheers, that confirms my suspisions. a couple of the studs are stainless i think. :shock: not good.
Hope they come out ok.I feel a brickwerks order coming on. :lol:

937carrera wrote:That's twice in a week threaded rod studding has been found. Wonder if it's the same builder :?:

The engine looks nice & clean internally, not much sign of carbon, I wonder how old the rebuild is ?

yes, Would be good to know when the re-build was done and by whome.
bores look good, slight marking but no scores i can feel with a finger nail.
Pistons feel sloppy in the bores though, a few measurements to do there methinks.

One barrel on the other side is stuck in the head so I'll have a read of itchylinks before proceding further. :ok
A bit at a time as I get the chance. :D

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 17:58
by itchyfeet
the problem is I think you will find that they have probably been inserted at the case so you have M10 in the case not M12 so standard studs won't fit

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 17:59
by itchyfeet
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Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 19:16
by 937carrera
It'll be interesting to see what BBB has when he gets the bores off. I suspect that something like a Timesert has been inserted rather than filling and helicoil, so the original threads may still be intact

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 19:40
by itchyfeet
can you remove timeserts?

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 19:54
by 937carrera
Yes you are supposed to be able to do that using stud extractors.

I have removed helicoils before but not a timesert, though I do have a spark plug repair in one of my other cars that has failed after a number of years due to it unscrewing with the plug.

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 19:55
by tobydog
Possibly?

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STUD EXRACTORS :o

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 21:36
by bigbadbob76
Thanks for the warning. It does look like there are inserts in there.
I'll know better when I gingerly remove some studding.
Here's tonights work. I know you guys love a picture or two. Enjoy.

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Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 21:38
by bigbadbob76
P.s. Frome the ring marks on the bores it looks like 2 pistons might have nipped up.
On the plus side, I cant feel any movement in big or small ends.


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Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 21:52
by george2490
Maybe there is a silver lining here!

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 21:54
by 937carrera
Those marks on the bore don't look too bad, do you think they will come out with a little hone, assuming they are still in tolerance ?

Do you think you have found anything yet that would explain the knocking, I suspect you are going to have to split the cases. Endfloat OK ?

Re: Not a restoration.

Posted: 30 May 2018, 22:22
by bigbadbob76
Piston skirts show no wear at all but some ring gap, bore etc measurments will tell the story.
I reckon a quick hone would clear the ring marks no problem. :-)
Gudgeon pins came out no problem, one is a tad tight.
I'm generally pretty pleased with what I'm finding in here ( apart from the studding) but havn't found the cause of the original low oil pressure that it's had for a while.
I think you're right, I'll need to split the cases and look at (measure) the big ends.
Yes, it has some appreciable end float. :-( and needs shaft seals..... it needs all seals. hahaha.