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I would love to fit EFi to the CU engine but struggling to justify it to myself and other half re. the cost saving/better fuel economy/more power.
VWspeed shop do a kit, don't think it is MS.
Any thoughts??

Efi on Aircooled is a mare due to inconsistent cylinder temp monitoring. The very reason why VW went watercooled.

To go on a gti chap.

Some proper good thread on CGTI and although doesn't give mega improvements (maybe 5 bhp and 5lb/ft) apparently its a different drive and improvements on paper don't reflect seat of pants dyno.

Found a chap to build one for me properly so I am 100% confident/happy.

Speedshop sell DTA. Really good bit of kit. Had it fitted to a 1600tp for my splitty last year. Head temp was taken from a boss/blank on #3, obviously hottest cylinder. Paul is an awesome guy and has a dyno in his garage at home so can map it for you

silverbullet wrote:Efi on Aircooled is a mare due to inconsistent cylinder temp monitoring.

The cylinder head temp's not used to affect the fuelling map on MS, though - just to "push the choke in".

The very reason why VW went watercooled.

VW had been fuel injecting (and catalysing) air-cooled flat fours for near-on a decade for the US by the time the WBX came out - and it was another few years before Europe saw injected WBXs.

I really ought to do something with the MS (plus damn near all hardware) that I've got sat in a box... Actually, that's almost the easy bit. The car that it's going on needs to get somewhere considerably nearer the road before I even think about fuelling...

Yes, true. But it was very crude FI and you can't really compare it to a modern fully-mapped engine management system like MS. Taking engine temp from the hottest cylinder just shows up the limitations of air cooling: you end up de-rating it's potential performance by fuelling/timing for the poorest-performing cylinder i.e. the one most likely to detonate.
Not a fan of aircold.

Theres a guy in norway allready got a 2.1 t25 running megasquirt....

http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 05#p392805

be a good person to ask for some maps to start your tuning with.....

S.

In the middle of spec'ing MS for an AGG today, hopefully will be ordered by tonight. VERY VERY VERY experienced/well respected chap who specializes in mk2/mk3 8v/16v golfs.

His threads read like porn

Found some dyno plots (from trusted garage ) of a 2.0l with ported head and mild cam on MS , 140bhp and 145 lb/ft , more importantly torque curve is smoother than Hutches chat up lines

Shaundon wrote:Theres a guy in norway allready got a 2.1 t25 running megasquirt....

interesting read - and he would appear to be getting a respectable 28mpg for highway cruising.

So are you intending going MS on your DH or get hold of a 2.1 and MS that.

ELVIS wrote:, more importantly torque curve is smoother than Hutches chat up lines

I very much doubt that

Torque curve flatter than a witches t*t? Or fatter than a Pete Tong playlist (one for the old skool)
145lb.ft is very good for a 2ltr.

silverbullet wrote:Torque curve flatter than a witches t*t? Or fatter than a Pete Tong playlist (one for the old skool)
145lb.ft is very good for a 2ltr.

Will try and find the thread chap

145lb.ft is a solid 196Nm! Stock ADY makes 170Nm @ 2400 iirc

All old news at IG16 of course... we are so far behind it's laughable

old thread but I always find updates interesting.
interesting power increase.
a lighter foot and tune for economy may??? give some potential for improved economy?

following link . details in last couple of posts

http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/its ... hal.50249/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That makes for very interesting reading, in so many ways

Good lord, it appears I have a 'de facto intercooler'