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Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:15
by happypixie
Hi,

Have spotted some brighter weather coming up over the weekend..do you think i'll get away with doing the one coat for now? I'm not a particularly fussy person so not bothered if she's not perfect but would like to change her from yellow to purple asap! :-)

Can I go back at a later date to flat it?

Also, was there somewhere near to my that i can go and buy it in person? I live near Portsmouth and am sure someone mentioned Southampton? Obviously, if theres a nearer one then that wud be grand :-)

:?

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:20
by Therunner
:lol: she's so jelous of my purple! :P

you're welcome to come do it at ours dear, we could even rig
up some kind of tarp, :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:27
by happypixie
I am liking the purple!!!!! :D gotta do it before the crap weather comes really...gulp! :-( I'm sooooo crap at painting!

How long'd ya reckon the one coat'll take? ..and err..and paint it where??? there is campers all over the place there as it is!!!! :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:33
by Therunner
yeah, you can do it in the fooookin road :P

nah, as mel said.. 2 of them are road legal, 2 of them are runners,
but only 1 of them is both! :lol: we can park out on the street & you
can purple our drive :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:36
by CovKid
You'll need at least two coats to start obliteraring that yellow :lol:

You can do whole van in under two hours - an hour when you get good at it.

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:37
by happypixie
You just want to laugh at me making a hash of it don't you!!! :cry:

It's going in on Monday for the lpg..not sure if to do it before or after that!

How long will it take to dry? anyone? How long will it take?

Help!

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:39
by happypixie
2 coats! boohoo!

what happens if you don't flat it between coats??? :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:42
by Therunner
you lazy old cow!

why don't you just let our kids do it? :D

(i'd wait till after lpg time,. who knows what they'll do to
your brand new purple if you do it before! :shock: )

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 14:48
by steveo3002
hey all

joined to to say i have the codes to match vw alpine white l90e

ask the mixer to make up 9016 traffic white then add the toners for 9002 grey white into the same tin that makes a perfect match for the alpine white , good enough to do a rustoleum panel against an original one

ive been playing tiding up our old polo, just done the sills and valence etc ...i used a really nice paint brush and got decent results , i kept a tin of spirit nearby and dunked the brush for the final strokes and got it to flow well

has anyone any input on trying differant solvents? something that evaporates faster would aid in the first coats

maybe celly thinners , acetone or ive even heard talk of petrol (yes really)

oh and for any east anglia members kent and blaxhill builders merchants sell it , they have several brances over east anglia

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 18:08
by CovKid
Not sure a faster evaporation is a good idea. The paint needs time to level. Its generally unworkable after 3-4 mins, air dry in 15 minutes, just about touchable in an hour, and drivable in 2. :lol:

White spirit isn't the same as cellulose thinners and could well alter the paint - if it'd work at all. Rustoleum do stock their own thinners though - that may make a difference. Cellulose thinners stink too! :D

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 19:26
by steveo3002
would be intresting to experimant on some scrap pieces ...never know till you try


ive got tescos white spirit and some genuine turpentine, the turpentine seems to give a better flow and more gloss alothough its like £3 for a 250ml bottle vs cheap for the tescos gear

ive noticed you can get

white spirit
turpentine
turpentine subsistute

anyone tried those against each other?

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 22:12
by CovKid
I think you'd be safe with those although as you say, they can work out expensive. I imagine that paraffin is in the same bracket - lol.

I DEFINATELY wouldn't want to be using petrol though. I need hardly remind anyone the real hazards using some solvents anyway, but petrol might just be pushing your luck. Thing to bear in mind is that whilst flammable, white spirit is 'fairly' safe if used sensibly and its nowhere near as volatile as petrol. Turpentine I believe is more 'oily' which might account for the extra shine, but we're drifting into chemistry to a large extent here and different solvents could have detrimental effects on the properties of the paint over time. It might pay to dig around online for the spec sheet.

Would never use cellulose again. Used to airbrush bike tanks with that stuff and it took MONTHS to get my sense of smell back.

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 08:10
by steveo3002
the way im thinking , if you left a jar of thinners, white spirit , terps etc etc after a few days or weeks depending on what is it the jar would be empty with very little residue left in bottom

so whatever you use its thinning the paint and evaporates eventualy, its just some are faster than others , i see on some other forums certain brands of spirit work better than others

i think rustoleum is pretty stable , nothing seems to faze it much goes over almost any ratty old paint/prep and doesnt frazzle up etc etc , youd have to do something really stupid to louse it up

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 13:31
by CovKid
Agree it might help finish but I was thinking in terms of at molecular level and its rust-inhibiting properties.

slowly slowy catchy monkey

Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 14:07
by TEMPO
hi all, i was desperate to change colour from light blue to dark blue.....
thick first coat to cover.....BAD IDEA, have now covered mostly with second thin coat, but terrible runny finish.....Will flatten back in spring....sure to recover ???????????????

JUST A TIP :oops: