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Re: Paint Your Wagon - with a roller!

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 15:05
by sifi.collins
Hi, I'm looking at painting some carbon fibre panels with this paint, as the application and everything I've read on the thread so far sounds really good. However, the panels are thin and can flex a little bit, but probably not much more than a large panel on a van side. How flexible is the paint when fully hardened, and does it have any tendency at all to crack? Thanks very much,
Simon

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 21:23
by carrotman
Hi again, have now manage to start painting my LT 28.

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I am surprised at how easy it is to be honest, I do have one issue however. I seem to be getting a few sags although not to many. Is this caused by having the paint to thick when mixed with the white sprit or am I applying to much paint? Will these disappear when I use wet and dry to flat first coat back. The first coat as it is looking great even with the odd sag, but hope the sags can be flattened out.

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I have tried to post some pics so hope these work.

What would be the best thing to use to remove a black tar type paint( think its underseal) thats been painted about 18 inches up the sides of my van?

I tried to initially remove the black tar paint off my van with a scraper and gas burner however it was really messy and difficult to remove. In the end I got some Nitromors paint remover and this worked a treat...hope this helps.

Andy

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 21:57
by CovKid
If you're getting sags, I'd say you're trying to put too much paint on. I know its tempting to load the roller but put thin coats on and work them out. A mate nearby to spot runs does help. Thin coats and build up layers slowly.

Looking good! :lol:

As for question on flexibility further up, I'd say it would be fine. Certainly works on glass fibre.

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 22:03
by carrotman
Right now will post images of my beloved LT......

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Preparation work took about 5 days in total. Painting with masking up, etc has taken about 2-3 hours so far. Unfortunately the weather has turned to rain now so will be a little inhibited. Hopefully I may be able to use my Mother-in-Laws barn whilst things are wet. I have the bit between my teeth now, it is great to see the van change as each bit is completed.

Will keep you posted.

Andy

Posted: 04 Aug 2008, 18:15
by carrotman
Has anyone got any tips on rear window removal and refitting? Never done anything like it before and a bit nervous to be honest.

Andy

Posted: 04 Aug 2008, 20:43
by CovKid
Quite well covered in a lot of threads already (run a search for windows or window rubbers) including the WIKI. You need two people, loosen the trim on the inside while someone applies sufficient pressure on the same side. I find soft trainers are great for this.

By the way, thats going to make one heck of a motorhome! :lol:

Posted: 05 Aug 2008, 13:39
by chrisray
Is there any real problems with doing this outside? I have no barn / garage big enough for my type 25, so apart from weather / dust and pollen ..is there any advice ?

Thanks,

Posted: 06 Aug 2008, 14:09
by CovKid
Please read WIKI under 'body and glass' - explains all otherwise I end up answering same questions but yes you can paint outside. Thanks.

Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 09:30
by Poseidon
Morning all,

I'm having a few problems and could really do with some advice...

The Van is prepped, I mixed the paint yesterday at about 20 - 25%. I have test fired it this morning onto an old panel and have found that there are loads of tiny bubbles.. the roller is well soaked in paint, yet I still get bubbles..

Is the paint too thick still? Any thinner and I think it would be too runny...

I need to get a coat on today, as it's off to be trimmed tomorrow..

Cheers
Tim

Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 11:09
by ermie571
Hi P,

I have just spent 1.5 hours flatting back!! Only got the rear quarter to the b pillar done on one side......not a job for a perfectionist...you will be there for hours!!! :lol:

From my experience....a few more thinners in this heat was easier to apply. You get bubbles. Give it a couple of minutes, and VERY LIGHTLY is weight of roller and NO MORE, run over the bubbles. Like magic, the bubbles go. The thinner the paint, it seems to be the longer the paint has to flow to get flat and smooth.

Also, have you mixed the paint for ages.....? I put the paint and thinners in, then sit in front of the telly for half hour, continually folding in the paint. This seemed to work better....but whether this was down to more thinners and better technique I don't know. What I do know is that I buggered up the front panel painting in the afternoon when it was too hot.

Its a lovely day....gonna go out and do some more flatting in a minute, then mix some paint, let it sit til late afternoon, early evening, and get a coat on - weather permitting!

I have had it where it runs down the van, this is when you need your spotter to get the sags! But keep rollering the drips, and you will get there...I just rolled out the roller in the tray before putting it on the van.

Dunno if this helps any, but keep trying. You do have to go back over it in 3 or 4 mins to get the bubbles out. Experiment on your test piece, as I think the time you have to wait is dependent on thinners and heat!

Em
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 15:02
by Pepperami
Replaced the drivers door so that is about 1/2 the bus done, well the first coat.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008, 18:54
by CovKid
Generally bubbles occur soon after first starting with a fresh roller which is why in video we mention about gently saturating roller. Definately slow mixing is important. If need be, let paint stand for an hour after mixing, that may help. Then short stir and away you go.

Looking good that bus - looks like its been dipped in sump oil - nice effect :lol:

Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 08:45
by Poseidon
Hi Guys, thanks for the advice..

I thought that the roller was soaked with paint, I guess it wasn't, whats the correct way of getting it soaked? And when I go to remove the roller from the tray how should I get the excessive amount of paint off the roller so that its not soaking wet and dripping everywhere?

I ended up abandoning the painting for the weekend as I had to re-assemble to take over to be trimmed today..

Hopefully I'll suss out the roller and paint this week, ready to apply next weekend... If there is anyone in the newbury area that wants to pop by and demonstrate that would be great! I'll cover your expenses! :O)

Pepperami, your van looks ace! Good work!

Cheers
Tim

Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 10:10
by Pepperami
It won't take close scrutiny yet but i quite like the look. Beats rust anyway.

Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 10:23
by carrotman
Well, finally got the last coat on...fortunately the parents-in-laws barn proved invaluable during the wet spell. Got one more coat on the front, what a job cutting back with the old wet and dry is :shock: ....great result though 8)

Just been away to the Fairport Convention Cropredy Festival in her, some great vans there a real inspiration. I even got some good feedback on the my revamped LT...made my weekend.

Anyway here are some pics of the van with first coat and fittings back on...

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Hey poseidon, I live in Oxford so maybe I could try and arrange to come down and see you?

Andy