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Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 24 Oct 2009, 17:54
by Cafnod
Titus A Duxass wrote:Kit kat wrappers is a reference to a blowing fuse so rolling up the foil from a Kit Kat wrapper
Back in the distant past (the days when radios had valve in and chips came with fish) we had some lengths of 6" nail known as noblows for fault finding.
Stick the noblows in and wait for the smoke, where there was smoke there was a problem.
In my old workshop the Oxford welder had its own 15 amp round pin socket cos the plugs are unfused, easier than having to no blow the whole socket ring.
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 15:13
by sandwedge
Im in the process of doing this up grade myself.
I dont want to cut holes in the body, so will be running my new battery feed under the van from the battery box and through the bulkhead where the main harness goes. This makes the run much longer to my new fuse box (sited behind glove box) than going across the floor inside. The connections from the relays will be running behind the dash from the brake in point on existing harness and back again.
The question I have is, the length of the harness runs how critical are they to performance.
thanks
Ian
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 15:37
by Gunslinger
I took the feed for the relay directly from the fusebox and mounted the relays next to the fuse box. The rest of the wiring was the existing lighting wiring. The fuses I used were the ones left vacated after connecting the lighting wiring to the relays. I couldnt really get my head round why I needed to run a cable direct from the battery when I was getting the voltage I needed straight from the fusebox. Having said that I'm not an electrician so I'm sure someone will be along in a mo to tell us why we should do that.
The mod I did took me about 20 minutes and the difference is amazing
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 17:53
by Cruz
I did exactly the same apart from I used fuse holders as I've an early ceramic fuse box
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 10:57
by sciroccotune
I have done something similar using the fuse box as the supply but made sure its all fused. However the difference is not that good as i have non H4 Lights

What are those all about!!
I guess my next step is get some H4 lights
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 11:03
by Gunslinger
sciroccotune wrote:I have done something similar using the fuse box as the supply but made sure its all fused. However the difference is not that good as i have non H4 Lights

What are those all about!!
I guess my next step is get some H4 lights
You can get H4 bulbs that have the original type fitting. I got some Lucas ones, think they were 100/80w
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 13:59
by sciroccotune
Gunslinger wrote:sciroccotune wrote:I have done something similar using the fuse box as the supply but made sure its all fused. However the difference is not that good as i have non H4 Lights

What are those all about!!
I guess my next step is get some H4 lights
You can get H4 bulbs that have the original type fitting. I got some Lucas ones, think they were 100/80w
Really,
Any good? Any links?
Thanks!
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 14:29
by Gunslinger
Yep, coupled with the mod they are brilliant
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Standard-Halogen- ... 2ea1bb257c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 14:46
by sciroccotune
So these will fit in the standard older type headlight and replace the older style 'bulb shaped' bulb?
thats good
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 15:08
by Red Westie
So are those round fitting? old styley? .. like this one?
http://www.consumabulbs.com/files/bdet.php?id=71" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If so?
you want 410 to H4 conversion bulbs similar to these: at least these would be road legal.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-SUPERWHITE- ... 10001r5729" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Martin
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 15:51
by Gunslinger
Yep, old style 410 / P45 bulb fitting with H4 halogen bulb
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 03:04
by nrxx
Hi Titus. You mentioned your 'rear' battery? Do you have one in the engine compartment for starting and if so where? I've been wondering if the space opposite the first air filter could house a starter battery.
Nick
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 06:33
by Titus A Duxass
Yes, I have a rear starter battery (standard for diesels I think).
It sits in the right hand corner of the engine bay near to the rear of the lights.
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 12:08
by nrxx
Thanks Titus, sounds like the opposite side on a WBX so looks like I've a new project. I'm keen to get the starter battery closer to the starter so that I can stop being embarrased by the pitying faces of onlookers when they hear it's wheezing slow turnover! I know I could refurb the starter and will but, still like the thought of being able to use ordinary sized batteries and it'll keep my passenger seat space clear for dirty washing!
Nick
Re: IDIOTS GUIDE TO HEADLAMP RELAY MOD
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 12:23
by HarryMann
Additional reading on H4 bulbs and headlight relays from Syncro website...
The graph shown below was constructed by Keith Morris (aka CumbrianKeith) and represents Hella's published light intensity output against supply voltage for a typical headlamp bulb. It indicates why a small drop of applied voltage (due to direct switching contacts, bad earths, too thin wire for instance) can result in very poor headlight brightness. Read on...
http://www.club80-90syncro.co.uk/Syncro ... ghting.htm