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Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 13:53
by CovKid
Meanwhile, in the real world, Covkid struggling to get rear drum off FOURS hours later.....
Adjusters backed off, stuck fast in centre. Blowtorch I think.....
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 14:01
by multisi
Wack it with a hammer.
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 17:01
by CovKid
Oh boy have I tried that. Normally works for me. Not this time. Still stuck on there and I started at 10.30am.....

Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 19:02
by 937carrera
Lump hammer, on the flat surface and then on the outside where the shoes are, rotating the drum as you go, some squirty stuff up where the drum has the interference fit on the hub.
Why don't we have a fingers crossed smiley

Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 20:21
by CovKid
Given it all of that and more. Leaving it soaking in plusgas and booked day off work tomorrow for round 2. Grrrrr.
I tell you what, I've never come across a drum THIS stubborn.
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 21:03
by george2490
Good luck.
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Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 21:49
by 937carrera
When you get it off, and you will, you might want to put some copaslip on the hub. At least that's what I did as I wasn't happy with how difficult it was to get my old drums off.
I would offer some sympathy, but I'll hold that in reserve for when you hit your hand with the lump hammer.

Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 11:30
by CovKid
Day 2. Blowtorch. No joy so far. Next plan is to gently grind/clean around join between axle and drum. Then whack it about with a hammer. If that doesn't work, I'll drill a pilot hole into drum, close to axle, partly to ease its grip and get more penetrating fluid in there.
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 11:46
by CJH
Is it only the interference fit between the hub and the inner hole in the drum that's causing the problem? Would a puller work?
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 11:50
by 937carrera
CJH wrote:Is it only the interference fit between the hub and the inner hole in the drum that's causing the problem? Would a puller work?
That was my next suggestion

Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 12:38
by CovKid
Yep, its the interference fit Chris. Pilot holes must have done something as I managed to squirt some plusgas in those and its starting to work its way out of the join between drum and axle. Will leave to soak for an hour then I'll put drill on hammer action against drum face to rattle it loose. Fingers crossed.
Puller no use as the backplate stops you getting the claws round drum edge. Back later....

Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 12:47
by CJH
CovKid wrote:
Puller no use as the backplate stops you getting the claws round drum edge. Back later....

Fair enough. I thought I remembered a lip around the edge of the drum that would allow a puller to grip. But even without that I think I might be tempted to peel the backing plate back a bit where necessary to get a puller on it. I'd be worried that all this hammering on the outer face is just driving the drum further on. Heat it up, hammer it on - it's stuck for good!
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 12:52
by Cobra88
Hi CovKid
I have had my Auto box out twice since Easter end never yet had to remove the rear drums
I just remove the driveshafts from the diff flanges.
or are you fixing a different area to the clutch?
Rick
Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 13:02
by Smcknighty
It’s a good job it’s not hot out there
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Re: No clutch suddenly
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 15:26
by captain Byrne
Also worth a mention is to keep your eye on the backplates, make sure you don't bend them whilst you're swinging on the drums trying to get them off. Happened to me & it took me ages to figure why my rear brakes were overheating. Even bought a new set of drums before I realised what was going on. Only figured it out after removing the shoes & noticing uneven wear on the short end. Bent the backplate back straight & all was fine again.