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Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 18:30
by kevtherev
itchyfeet wrote:When i was quite young i remember my first ride in a T3, it was quite an young van also, i was so excited but it was a bit embarrasing really becuase every time i got out it made a sort of farting noise from the lower bush :oops:
it's never happened with any of my later vans :D


Bush farting is just not a cool sound when demounting.


Flaky bushes make a fuffing noise.

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 19:22
by trucker
kevtherev wrote:
itchyfeet wrote:When i was quite young i remember my first ride in a T3, it was quite an young van also, i was so excited but it was a bit embarrasing really becuase every time i got out it made a sort of farting noise from the lower bush :oops:
it's never happened with any of my later vans :D


Bush farting is just not a cool sound when demounting

Easily avoidable by liberally applying a proprietary lubrication (Castrol R smells nice) to said bush before mounting it in the desired location, as mentioned before due to the extra thickness of German bushes they may need an extra application.

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 19:23
by weldore
Too shorter crookshank with too longer stroke will cause the bush to make this sound

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 19:32
by itchyfeet
trucker wrote:
kevtherev wrote:
itchyfeet wrote:When i was quite young i remember my first ride in a T3, it was quite an young van also, i was so excited but it was a bit embarrasing really becuase every time i got out it made a sort of farting noise from the lower bush :oops:
it's never happened with any of my later vans :D


Bush farting is just not a cool sound when demounting

Easily avoidable by liberally applying a proprietary lubrication (Castrol R smells nice) to said bush before mounting it in the desired location, as mentioned before due to the extra thickness of German bushes they may need an extra application.

I think the problem was the bushes were too tight becuase this was a newish van and the bushes were pre loaded with too much lubrication back then :oops:

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 19:40
by trucker
itchyfeet wrote:
trucker wrote:
kevtherev wrote:
Bush farting is just not a cool sound when demounting

Easily avoidable by liberally applying a proprietary lubrication (Castrol R smells nice) to said bush before mounting it in the desired location, as mentioned before due to the extra thickness of German bushes they may need an extra application.

I think the problem was the bushes were too tight becuase this was a newish van and the bushes were pre loaded with too much lubrication back then :oops:
I can just about remember when bushes used to be self lubricating, I think back then the insertion of the giggle pin used to be much more straight forward affair, nowadays I'm just as happy to have a cup of tea and pay a mechanic to do it for me

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 19:49
by itchyfeet
trucker wrote:affair, nowadays I'm just as happy to have a cup of tea and pay a mechanic to do it for me

never i cant bring my self to watch from the viewing gallery while some mechanic gives my van a damn good servicing :shock:

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 08:21
by T25Convert
Interesting reading here for all those with a potentially faulty giggle pin.

I don't think its been noted yet that the giggle pin can often soften considerably during this very cold weather. Had a quick look in the Haynes and the Bentley, both recommended a brisk rub-down by hand before insertion.

Hope this helps the general mass debate on the subject....

Cheers,

Alex

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 11:17
by kevtherev
T25Convert wrote:Interesting reading here for all those with a potentially faulty giggle pin.

I don't think its been noted yet that the giggle pin can often soften considerably during this very cold weather. Had a quick look in the Haynes and the Bentley, both recommended a brisk rub-down by hand before insertion.

Hope this helps the general mass debate on the subject....

Cheers,

Alex
You strike me as a bloke with experience of giggle pin rubbing Alex.
What do you use to rub it with?

I'm going to use an old sock.

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 11:49
by Smcknighty
Warming the bush before hand for 10-20 minutes can help get things moving.

This doesn't work both ways - I wouldn't recommend putting the giggle pin in the freezer before insertion for example - you will get far to much shrinkage then and you'll never get the thing in..

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 13:19
by T25Convert
kevtherev wrote:
You strike me as a bloke with experience of giggle pin rubbing Alex.
What do you use to rub it with?

I'm going to use an old sock.

TBH most rubbing was carried out historically, bit out of practice.

Consulting the Bentley again to refresh my memory, suggests that Tool VW301.230.321/A is used, along with safety goggles. Can't find the original tool anywhere, but the Haynes is useful as it suggests that a sheet of high strength tissue paper may be a suitable alternative, but notes that this is a rare instance where reassembly is not the reverse of removal... Food for though I think.

Cheers,

Alex

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 16:55
by nevill3
I have just received an email in my spam folder that offers a chemical treatment for giggle pin faults that promises to extend their working life, and the now defunct Formula1 Hispania Racing Team experimented with a chemical intervention for the dry fuffle valves.

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 20:20
by itchyfeet
kevtherev wrote: You strike me as a bloke with experience of giggle pin rubbing

:lol: you asked for that :lol:

Re: Giggle pin replacement

Posted: 06 Mar 2014, 21:46
by Cruz
Once new a bloke who was out of action for a while when he snapped his giggling pin after a bit of robust top loaded thrust