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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 08:41
by Plasticman
You missed the point of the hassle Jim, there was nothing wrong with the first panal I made, as it was an exact copy of the original ,the problem lay/lays in the lower rear 1//4 and ,or the rear wing, one of which was without suppliers stickers, so my genuine and your £195 copy would both have resulted in some creative works. :lol: might have to measure up to known panals on mine and see which is wrong
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 11:20
by 1664
This would make a fascinating 'movie' if you could join all the stills together and run it start to finish :D

Is there an ETA for Carol's debut back on the camping/show circuit?

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 11:54
by Plasticman
march ,one believes, I have enough problems posting stills.only some of which are here, the count is 400+ to date
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 13:32
by kevtherev
jeez... :shock:
that's a lot.

Bren I may well tinker with the stills as Mike will be giving me all of them when finished

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 13:48
by 1664
kevtherev wrote:Bren I may well tinker with the stills as Mike will be giving me all of them when finished
:ok I hope I haven't made a rod for your back Kev; 400+ stills is shed loads.............

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 18:39
by Plasticman
there will be more like 600 when done, as loads are simmilar, but they will be whats the word, well taken at 14mp so will fit on a dvd and room for tweaking..
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busy uploading as we speak :rofl
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 19:18
by kevtherev
No rod where love is concerned Bren :D

Thanks Mike :ok

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 20:02
by Plasticman
Well.got the blaster out prior to fitting the new panals,this is the rear 1/4 panal
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this is the middle panal(fridge) you can see the filler thats been dumped over the original paintwork, this (dint) is causing probs ,now sorted, as I need to bring this panal out to match the rear wing as I dont want to match it to the filler 8)
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new bit finnished and drilled for welding
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this is the other one flat packed, serve me right for not checking
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vactan over the blasted areas, most of it will be removed as there isnt much in the way of rust left and i will treat with weld thru etc
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I drill the edge lip for welding as if you just weld on the edge you dont get as secure a hold as you do welding in the middle of the seam/lip
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rear corner welded on, the lower welds are good and need no further work, the edge seam in tailgate opening gets a bead of sealant and the main horizontal join I will lead up
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this is now welded, I have run the disc over the spots and will lead up, on the right I have gassed the join as it returns so there will be no future problems here
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wing now clamped and swage lines up nice, its tricky as it slopes upwards towards the rear of the van
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this is how I fit the top corners, I gas them and run soime brazing into the seam
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and this is the last time I ever knowingly fit this brand
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 03 Feb 2012, 23:58
by mm289
Great stuff Mike, took me about 20 minutes of staring at the pics from the side panel repair but finally figured it out.

That's what i ended up doing on mine after a lot of hassle, should have done it this way in the first place :), experience eh :roll:

MM

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 04 Feb 2012, 11:48
by scottbott
van is going to look mighty impressive when it is all finished

Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 04 Feb 2012, 19:04
by Plasticman
Oh I dont know Scott, it will be normal like most vans on here, no bu***g will see whats under it all :rofl
Well got done today
this is the top of the wing cut and now ready to weld
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welded and will run the grinder over it and that will be that
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welded a lip to the inside of the arch and have dosed it with red lead on the surface that will be part of the mating face
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I have drilled most of the lips and welded through them to look somnething like the originbal, its also a very effective amd neat way of doing it
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same with the external lips/joins
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same front edge, here I have gassed the short vertical join about 1/4" in from the seam , this saves disturbing an otherwise good seam area if you do your own, I will also lead the long join across the whole length of the panal
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this has now after loads of grief welded up ok, will lead it up tommorow and clean up the rough gas fill hole.
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last picky of the side, all new metal, all rust cut out and removed, cant really do much more ,
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so thats all welding done apart from a minor bit of roof gutter which I will make and do tommorow if I get time
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 05 Feb 2012, 19:53
by Plasticman
Well chose not to go out sledging :cry:
first job leading up , there are different grades of lead dependant on their tin / lead percentages, this in turn alters how long the or over how large a range of temperature it stays shall we say . plastic and workable. this picky shows a couple of commercially available types , that said the supplier can make up any combination I want but its easier and cheaper to make it yourself
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2 grades of lead and a wire of 90%tin
i melt scrap lead into ingots then use some of this blended with the tin and make my own sticks , get what I want and near on 1/2 the price.
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anyhow back to the job in hand, this is the fridge panal treated and ready for sealing
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now taped,
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this is taped up to give a neat finnish
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the next few show it in more detail
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there is no need to daub the stuff everywhere, first it looks messy and second it cost money and is a waste, this will be painted and should not then be noticed as a repair.
same in the rear corners
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so the leqad to file off tommorow and then its just the gutte
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 05 Feb 2012, 22:21
by Plasticman
Out of interest why dont brickyard have a section with stuff being done up like we haqve on here, I ask cos there are some really nice vans over there and surely the guys (and ladies) must do the same works as we do on here , for two pins Id post on there as well but its too much work to write up wtice.
just a thought
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 06 Feb 2012, 08:21
by jimpainter
Its called the bus park mate.
They don't seem to have as many projects over that way.
I put mine on there as well as here
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Re: Kevtherevagon

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 18:51
by Plasticman
So do they just bling them up and not bother with the important stuff then Jim,that or theyre buying mint vans :wink:
Well the gutters, been doing the boring filling and such and this is the last awkward bit
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not worth trying to save this as when the roof is bonded back on it would be a nightmare so
off it comes
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I have drilled the spots first , whilst I dont intend to fit the new bit right in to the upturn , I would have made a mess trying to chop through half a spot weld
the heavy steel strip is to support the new piece and prevent warping
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nice profile and I think the aftermarket ones are not defined enough, that said I havent had the various ones in my hand to compare and unless I get a sample foc i wont bother
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this is the only bad bad area, the odd other place only requires a small piece added on the very outermost upstand
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