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Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 17:35
by Cooper
syncropaddy wrote:Cooper wrote:Had MOT today its failed, but im chuffed as its only a few small things.
Windscreen washer pump.
Offside (tailpipe) exhaust has leak of gases.
Exhaust has excess level of smoke
So new pump, new air filter, repair exhaust.
You let it go to the test with no washer pump? Excess level of smoke over here means your engine is fecked ....
Washer pump was on van just didnt work.
What they said was, exhaust emits excess level of metered smoke for a turbo charged engine.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:22
by axeman
echoing what andrew said (syncropaddy), what do you understand the problem to be regarding the excess smoke?
neil
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:27
by Cooper
axeman wrote:echoing what andrew said (syncropaddy), what do you understand the problem to be regarding the excess smoke?
neil
Well what the mot guys said to me was that i need to get a new air filter as i havent changed it since i bought camper in feb and it probably hasnt been changed for a long time.
Thats all i know about it.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:34
by axeman
ok i understand, your banking on clogged up air filter causing the smoke. time will tell i guess.
neil
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:36
by Cooper
axeman wrote:ok i understand, your banking on clogged up air filter causing the smoke. time will tell i guess.
neil
Well thats what the mechanics told me.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:39
by lloydy
going by your other thread of turbo leaking oil, the smoke coming out the exhaust could be oil?
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:42
by max and caddy
For an older diesel to fail the mot smoke test it has to be real bad....I suspect the test was not carried out correctly, was it left ticking over for ages? A good thrashing will normally shift most of the soot and allow a warmed up engine to pass its test, if not, take the LDA pipe off and try again....if non of those work its maybe had it.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:47
by Cooper
What is the lda pipe?
The smoke it white.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:48
by lloydy
my old jx passed when the turbo was really bad. no exaggeration, you could not see out the rear window on the way to the mot station. The trick with mine was to let it get up to temp and ignore the smoke cloud, then engine off then on again and it wouldnt smoke for about 20 mins
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:00
by max and caddy
Cooper wrote:What is the lda pipe?
The smoke it white.
The thin pipe to the top of the injector pump from the inlet manifold.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:15
by Cooper
Thankyou for your advice.
I will try a new filter. If thats not it the ill try the pipe idea then the others
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:21
by max and caddy
You don't need to try a filter to know if that's the problem...take it out and look at it, if it looks fairly ok...it's ok! Try revving it up with no filter fitted and that will rile out the filter... Is there heavy white smoke...a bit of general smoke...how is it on the road? How's the timing? Is the oil level correct andits the dipstickreadingproperly (I bet it isn't...only way to know is dump out the oil and start again)
My old girl smokes like mad if the oil level is even a couple of mm over the level on the re marked dipstick...
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:26
by Cooper
max and caddy wrote:You don't need to try a filter to know if that's the problem...take it out and look at it, if it looks fairly ok...it's ok! Try revving it up with no filter fitted and that will rile out the filter... Is there heavy white smoke...a bit of general smoke...how is it on the road? How's the timing? Is the oil level correct andits the dipstickreadingproperly (I bet it isn't...only way to know is dump out the oil and start again)
My old girl smokes like mad if the oil level is even a couple of mm over the level on the re marked dipstick...
When i first start the van up there is white smoke for approx 3 seconds then no smoke driving it.
Changed oil 2months ago.
Oil level is fine.
Dont know how to check the timing.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:28
by lloydy
that sounds normal, did it smoke a lot at the test? get them to test it as soon as you pull in, most mot places do it last
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:30
by max and caddy
Cooper wrote:max and caddy wrote:You don't need to try a filter to know if that's the problem...take it out and look at it, if it looks fairly ok...it's ok! Try revving it up with no filter fitted and that will rile out the filter... Is there heavy white smoke...a bit of general smoke...how is it on the road? How's the timing? Is the oil level correct andits the dipstickreadingproperly (I bet it isn't...only way to know is dump out the oil and start again)
My old girl smokes like mad if the oil level is even a couple of mm over the level on the re marked dipstick...
When i first start the van up there is white smoke for approx 3 seconds then no smoke driving it.
Changed oil 2months ago.
Oil level is fine.
When you say oil level is fine...how do you know the dipstick s correct? Did you measure the oil before it went in?
Dont know how to check the timing.