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Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 21:07
by MarrV
what2d wrote:MarrV wrote:Tried adding a 15a fused wire from batt +ve to coil - she did not fire, only turned over on starter motor
Tried without it & that clunk noise but nothing more
3rd time no electric or anything - taken battery out & charger is saying its low again
Are you still spraying something into the carb whilst turning it over? It would be fab to hear that this van successfully ran for a while even if you were spraying blooming funny fuel into it!
Ah it did run successfully yday for a while until we saw white smoke, panic'd & turned her off.
While it may be a record am thinking beers may be turning into cases of beer soon....
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 22:10
by SamsBus2012
MarrV wrote:
The wire coming of the alternator which is labelled in the above pics is a mystery to me
Not in the league of the other guys on here but after having lots of alternator problems recently, I'm pretty sure the "mystery" lead you refer to is the one that eventually runs to the battery charge light in the dash.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 08 Jun 2014, 20:07
by itchyfeet
SamsBus2012 wrote:MarrV wrote:
The wire coming of the alternator which is labelled in the above pics is a mystery to me
Not in the league of the other guys on here but after having lots of alternator problems recently, I'm pretty sure the "mystery" lead you refer to is the one that eventually runs to the battery charge light in the dash.
I agree blue in the loom is alternator light and that connects to the rear of the alternator as it should
wiring looks ok from the pics at a glance, it has run so dont worry about it for now
so measure the batt voltage a few hours minimum after charging, preferably next day, what is it?
also try measuring the current draw, disconnect the pos terminals and with everything off measure current draw one by one
total should be very very low if not something is draining batt
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 14:13
by MarrV
Got a new battery, about to test it out.
Was just thinking on the ignition coil wiring;
The +ve has a wire from fuse box (assuming ignition switch?) a wire to the inlet manifold preheater and a wire going to the ECU (or whatever it is called)
The -ve has a wire going to the ECU
The ofc the HT wire to the dizzy.
Will check the old battery if this doesnt work, either way calling a mobile mechanic if she doesnt start with new battery.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 14:29
by MarrV
Well despite my concerns above, new battery & she starts & runs fine.
White smoke;
We have traced its origin to a oil build up on the exhaust pipes underneath the engine. Waiting for it all to cool & we will clean them off & see if She still produces smoke.
Job for a later time; clean/degrease entire external engine & see where oil appears to try to narrow leak.
Next on to do list; find out how to thank you guys.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 14:40
by itchyfeet
Well done
loads learnt along the way too
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 14:42
by what2do
RESULT!!!
You'll be back for more at some point in the near future but until then, enjoy your successes.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 14:48
by itchyfeet
Still worth doing the current draw measurement with a multimeter otherwise you may end up with another flat battery by the end of the week
stereo is often a culprit for current draw.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 15:01
by MarrV
itchyfeet wrote:Still worth doing the current draw measurement with a multimeter otherwise you may end up with another flat battery by the end of the week
stereo is often a culprit for current draw.
Would truly be amazed if the stero is drawing as it is currently disconnected - the was not one wired in when we got her, I installed one when we first couldn't get her started as something else to do between hitting head on engine trying to fix it.
Will do a draw test once it is connected though
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 15:30
by what2do
How did you wire it in? Does it work without the ignition on?
Itchyfeet will be scoffing at my 'expertise' because he diagnosed mine about a fortnight ago!! It's all about learning

Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 16:27
by MarrV
First things first;
The white smoke could be two things;
The clutch & accelerator cable were both hard up against the cam cover - their plastic cover's are both damaged, but the cables both work fine. Moved these away from cam cover in case these were getting melted & producing the smoke.
The second is that the 10mm bolts on the nuts that secure the cam cover (and the top half of the timing belt cover) have lost their thread - they don't tighten up, so possible the cover was not on tight enough & the smoke was escaping from the cam case?
Either way off to get new 10mm bolts
As for how did we wire up the radio? With a lot of patience - the wiring was already in place but the issues we that I had to manually wire the adapters & work out what the different abbreviations meant. It is disconnected as the 12v supply cable has a bullet connector inline which we disconnected while we were fixing the rest of ruby.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 17:56
by kevtherev
MarrV wrote: so possible the cover was not on tight enough & the smoke was escaping from the cam case?
not smoke, oil.
the oil will seep on to the exhaust header, just get it hot it will burn off.
Antifreeze will smoke like that too.
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 18:31
by MarrV
kevtherev wrote:MarrV wrote: so possible the cover was not on tight enough & the smoke was escaping from the cam case?
not smoke, oil.
the oil will seep on to the exhaust header, just get it hot it will burn off.
Antifreeze will smoke like that too.
Aye we got new nuts & tightened her up & she stopped smoking (should tell the NHS that

). Also drained some oil from her sump as Katie realised she got the level we were told was her max level wrong (engine @ angle so dipstick level's not accurate). Waiting for it all to settle & try again tomorrow to see if more smoke appears.
The end is in sight I hope though. Kev - you still not given a preference on what you like to drink (nor has anyone else tbh)
Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 18:37
by kevtherev
Corona.

Re: Need advice from the forum sages
Posted: 09 Jun 2014, 18:46
by itchyfeet
Got to be Barrs irn bru

washed down with an ale
