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Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 16:50
by silverbullet
Beer on a school day?!!!
Bernoulli's theorem eh? Blimey, that takes me back to day release at Twickenham Tech. College, "studying"

Process Plant Design. I'll have to do some revision there...
I was on the verge of doing a modest air flow test myself: Using my Kestrel 1000 tied to a scrap of expanded mesh wedged into the light-box aperture.The Kestrel can record peak values so all I need to do is a series of fixed-speed runs do get some data.
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 17:09
by ewenmaclean
ha ha - no the beer and idiocy happened at the weekend - I'm more or less sober at the moment....
I tied a cheap farnell pressure switch measuring between 1 and 2 bar I think to various places - then just connected the multimeter up and noted the values at certain points. Moves around a bit but you can get some high/low readings and compare them. I should try it again with the air directed to behind the van... The Kestrel sounds like a much more serious bit of kit - would be interested in what you find
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 20:19
by silverbullet
The Kestrel 1000 is the base model so only a wind speed meter; mine was a lucky find when I bought an old toolbox at a workshop clearance
It's the old style one like this:
I don't see why a simple bit of ducting wouldn't drastically improve those corner-mounted coolers performance, once the tedious trial-and-error bit has been done.
I want to put an oil cooler on the SA mounted on the nearside corner, to keep the hose runs nice and short to the take-off. It would work for a wbx too, they could all do with a chassis-mounted remote filter for easier access, syncros especially!
Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 15:57
by 16vmini
In the process of making a DIY wind speed meter
Will post pics and any results in a day or so.
Matt
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 12:41
by lloydy
Have some temps to report now I've got the charge cooler circuit working correctly. Around town normal driving = 28 degrees. 40 odd mph on a bypass = upto 36 degrees. Very steep hill (box hill) 3rd gear full boost =45 degrees. Have yet to do a motorway hill, but will report back when I di
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 10:20
by silverbullet
I reckon the M25 in traffic, August last year around 6pm would have been a good test. It's too cool at the moment to see if heat soak is likely to be a problem imho.
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:38
by keith
lloydy wrote:Have some temps to report now I've got the charge cooler circuit working correctly. Around town normal driving = 28 degrees. 40 odd mph on a bypass = upto 36 degrees. Very steep hill (box hill) 3rd gear full boost =45 degrees. Have yet to do a motorway hill, but will report back when I di
my highest...very similar to your 36 lloydy
30.6
31.5
32.4
34.2
36.9
36.9
36
35.1
35.1
34.2
34.2
34.2
34.2
34.
34.2
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 13:20
by lloydy
I don't think it will ever be a problem to be honest. When the c cooler circuit was airlocked the temps were aroun high 60's. No noticeable loss in power, a passat doesn't get problems in traffic, so we shouldn't either.
I'll record some motorway temps, I reckon low 30's to mid 40's depending on incline. Highest I've seen the water temps since fixing the van has been 77 degrees. Before I sorted the pipework out it was 87 degrees..
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 13:27
by silverbullet
lloydy wrote:a passat doesn't get problems in traffic, so we shouldn't either.
Front of car installation couldn't be more different to the same engine in the back of a syncro! Air flow is completely different, in fact you can't compare a syncro to a 2wd or even petrol to diesel, cooling-wise. Chalk and cheese!
#waits for the inevitable derv vs. benzin comments#
I'm sure yours is a shedload better for being re-plumbed, but you could do with a good hot spell here to check what's going on before setting off to la Bella Italia, no?
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 13:45
by lloydy
Would be nice to get some miles in full stop! But, yes would be nice to test it in all temp ranges. I'm going to book it in somewhere for a tune up, as I know it was only set up mechanically so some fettling might get some better mpg. Shame all the Vagcom boffins live oop north
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 21:13
by phil miller
lloydy wrote:Would be nice to get some miles in full stop! But, yes would be nice to test it in all temp ranges. I'm going to book it in somewhere for a tune up, as I know it was only set up mechanically so some fettling might get some better mpg. Shame all the Vagcom boffins live oop north
I dont, i use VCDS most days and can tune the TDIs, its not a problem to do, if you fancy a weekend in devon/cornwall can tie it all in at the same time mate

Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 21:27
by lloydy
nice offer
funnily enough i'm at a syncro event 1st weekend of august in cullompton

Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 21:33
by phil miller
lloydy wrote:nice offer
funnily enough i'm at a syncro event 1st weekend of august in cullompton

Not far from me, i can always come up and sort it then if you want?
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 21:40
by lloydy
If your happy to do that, it would be great!

beer and BBQ will be waiting....
Re: Tdi air intake temps
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 21:45
by phil miller
lloydy wrote:If your happy to do that, it would be great!

beer and BBQ will be waiting....
Ideal, will bring the 25 with me, be good to give her a good run
