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Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 11:51
by ringo
Depending on how much cash / time you have, you may want to setup the van as a non turbo first (slap a 1.9d 1Y engine in).

If so, this will be worth buying (not me):

https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=96464

I forgot you will also need a flywheel (and i have one for sale if you're interested :) )

Ringo

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 19:19
by Jonnyb416
Ok so suppose I went for a 1.9 diesel 1Y (out of a Seat Ibiza?) would I not need as much bits as with a JX?

This could end up a million and one questions on the 1Y engine now!! :?:

Jon.

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 19:21
by ringo
Not much less - but it is a LOT easier to do.

Ringo

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 19:40
by Jonnyb416
Would first port of call be find a Seat Ibiza with a decent 1Y engine? I saw one on ebay once £250 with MOT and Tax!

Is there a lot I would need still if I found a complete car? Obviously bars/mounts but what about sump/manifolds/filters?

Cheers again Ringo :ok

Jon.

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 19:50
by billy739
its a very long winded way of doing things , especially when you dont have the bits you need to convert the newer engine to fit a T25

it will end up costing you much more in the long run! and probably a lot more sweat /tears.

simplest way to get your van running is buying the complete set up from a n/a van , most will still prob need the wiring doing tho as they will be late setups.

your probably looking at around £500 to get an engine in and running , if you do alot of the work yourself

if you end up buying all the bits seperatly it will be alot more!

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 20:03
by Jonnyb416
billy739 wrote: simplest way to get your van running is buying the complete set up from a n/a van , most will still prob need the wiring doing tho as they will be late setups.

your probably looking at around £500 to get an engine in and running , if you do alot of the work yourself


Thanks for the advice there Billy, so is there anyone you can put me in touch with for what I would need? I would gladly pay around £500 to get my van running. I have a few mates who can help me fit it too. I am able to travel for the right stuff. Cheers, Jon.

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 20:56
by ringo
I have to say im not sure i agree with Julian (BillyNumbers) for a NA setup.

For a start, vans arent that cheap even with a knackered engine. Unless of course Julian can sell you one :D
However, i'm not stupid enough to ignore something Julian says - he breaks these vans for a living so knows better than most.

I would start with that list and add up all your bits - then start looking at knackered vans (i think you have one already but im hoping the bodywork is good on it!! :rofl )

As a side, I have no idea how much engine bars are - or if they are easy to get. These and the rubbers may be your downfall...

Ringo

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 21:11
by Jonnyb416
I kinda get where you are both coming from and suppose I will see if Billy (Julian) comes back with anything. If he breaks vans surely he could provide the lot :D

My van is nearly finished body work wise and I have throughly enjoyed doing it. Thing is this engine malarky is proving more complicated than anything else.

I have seen loads of engine bars for sale just biding my time.

Jon.

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 21:52
by keith
hi Jon

does this mean that you dont want to buy the engine then...happy either way..you need to make the right decision...but i need to sell the JX (or maybe sell the separate bits as i said)

cheers
keith

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 02:17
by bowesy
jon i have a jx engine in my van that is running although off road mine is an 86 year. If you wanted to come and have a look at the engine bay, im sure we could sort something as im only in sthelens so not too far :ok

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 02:26
by Grumpy Midget
Hi John,
there is a few of us dotted around Glass Town and including Ormskirk, I sent you a PM.

Ref/ Bowsey were abouts are you ST.Helens??????
My 20 is off Leach Lane-------------------------------------- :ok

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 08:49
by billy739
i have always sold my complete engine units jx as turnkey with bars , hoses , wiring ect for around £450

the N/A 1.7 setups i usually do with the box for £500

the option is i specifically get a van to break or you find one

i have the set up now in for sale section , but as it states in needs some minor tinkering , but will be good enough to get the van running

my local scrapyard has later car diesel turbo and non turbo engines regularly and are about £150 complete but you do have to remove yourself.

he has all from basic 1.9 n/a to the later flyby wire turbo stuff all the same price

i have a n/a engine poss to split , it has some hoses /engine bars/ early wiring /manifolds /exhaust ect and i only want £100-

some sellers charge £100 for the engine bars , £50 for flywheel , £30 wiring loom , £50 manifolds , £30 bellhousing bolts £400 bare engine , £50 airfilter ect ect and you can see how it adds up seperatly.

if you get a 5 speed gearbox you will need the gear stick androds , add the service items you will want anyway - fuel , air , oil filters plus cambelt kit , possibly clutch and it will add up!

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 13:07
by keith
ringo wrote: I have no idea how much engine bars are - or if they are easy to get. These and the rubbers may be your downfall...

Ringo


two sets on ebay now...with rubbers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T25-1-6-TU ... 256b2a87a5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and the air box...not expensive

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vw-t25-turbo- ... 3a6bd42177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 19:59
by bowesy
Grumpy Midget wrote:
Ref/ Bowsey were abouts are you ST.Helens??????
My 20 is off Leach Lane-------------------------------------- :ok

Hi pal I'm in thatto Heath my van isn't on the road yet currently doin it up I havent seen that many t25 s round here

Re: Fitting a 1.6TD JX (now with pics)

Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 02:20
by Grumpy Midget
bowesy wrote:
Grumpy Midget wrote:
Ref/ Bowsey were abouts are you ST.Helens??????
My 20 is off Leach Lane-------------------------------------- :ok

Hi pal I'm in thatto Heath my van isn't on the road yet currently doin it up I havent seen that many t25 s round here

There is 4 T25s in the area that I live in (2) Tin Tops kitted out as day/camper van. (1)A 1984 Devon Sunrise, Pop Top, Side lifting. (1) E.M.C. Hightop with a Leisurdrive Conversion. (2) TinTops + 1 PopTop. (3) In Total Situated in the Dentons Green Area. So I make that Seven of us. You will have to come to one of our Monkey Meets Somtime I will let you know when the next 1 is.
Glad to see your not 1 of the Spotters Brigade-------------------- :mrgreen: