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Hi,

kevtherev wrote:you would have a different cast engine mount above the mounting bar, which would have had silencer saddle mounting holes

Thanks Kev. Yes it does have this mount etc I had concluded that A)when the system was changed, by the previous owner the later system was replaced with the earlier type, saved them money and they were selling the van anyway or B) unlikely, but possible, that the engine was modified for the later type exhaust but VW were using up all their old (earlier) stock.
I think I read that VW changed the exhaust system so that a catalytic converter could be incorporated.
Anyway the earlier system works fine, it's simpler so I will stick with it. I will have to now that I have bought the new silencer.
Don

Hi,

Apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but after searching for some time it seems the most similar to my predicament.....

I have a 1989 1.9 petrol with the late style exhaust system. I found that that the exhaust jointing pipe between the cast elbow and silencer had rusted badly and made a temporary repair, however following a short drive i discovered that the whole jointing pipe had detached, and my silencer and tailpipe were draging behind the van! Further investigation revealed that the silencer only had one mounting cradle attached, and rather than being attached to the engine mount it had been attached to the sliding bracket on the rear manifold.

I managed to source second-hand but new parts rather cheaply on ebay (rear manifold, cast elbow, jointing pipe, tailpipe, fitting kit, a second cradle mount/strap) and have retained the front manifold and silencer, and fitted everything myself to save money (Ive learnt alot on the way, I didnt even know what an exhaust manifold was before I embarked on this whole thing!) only to realise that there dosent appear to be anything to attach the silencer saddles to! I presume this is why my silencer ended up dragging along the road when the intermediate pipe rusted off (i.e. the pipe was taking half the weight of the silencer....)

Anyway, I obviously want to fit it properly this time to prevent a similar issue reoccuring, but what extra part do I need? Is there something that fits to the engine bar to enable me to mount the silencer cradles? I cant seem to find any diagrams/photos anywhere, and want to make sure I get the right part...

Many thanks,

Jon

your 89 system should have everything in place to take the cradles.
part No 025 199 221 A (engine retainer) should be already fitted to the carrier bar

Just an unimportant observation = I notice Brickwerks don't appear to sell any of the earlier system

The prototype cruz mentions as per =

Cruz wrote:Just to throw in for the future that Brickwerks have had early tubes made in stainless that they are going to be testing. No updates since it was announced http://brickwerks.wordpress.com/2011/07 ... e-exhaust/

Has not been listed on the main site, and even if it was it says £485 just for the tubes and I cannot see a silencer mentioned.

At the Brickwerks open day I notice Simon is selling the cradles remanufactured in stainless for those to comatose to acquire them pre-loved at shows.

Ian

Thanks Kev,

that part is definately missing so I'll hunt one down, just to clarify, would it simply be a case of bolting it on in the right place and then attaching the silencer cradles, or would I need to detach the engine support bar first?

Thanks again,

Jon

Take the bar off and fit the retainer ...good time to renew the mounts aswell if they are original or chinese cack then get some off brickwerks

One last question too,

If this is the additional part:

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=630974

How do the silencer cradles attach to the mount so as to point towards the rear of the vehicle and not out towards the sides?

Cheers,

Jon

jonnyswan1980 wrote:One last question too,

If this is the additional part:

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=630974

How do the silencer cradles attach to the mount so as to point towards the rear of the vehicle and not out towards the sides?

Cheers,

Jon

thats the non cradle retainer/engine mount..
the retainer or engine mount that carries the cradles has mounting lugs on ...they are different

Great, thanks for clarifying Kev, its tricky when you don't know exactly what youre looking for.

On closer inspection it would appear that mine has the "non-lug" version for some reason (even though the heat shield has the cut-away sections for the cradles), which is a pain as I was hoping to just be able to attach the silencer cradles now I have them, and be done with it.... Nevermind!

Apparently it had an engine change sometime in the past before I owned it, maybe something was changed about then....

Cheers,

Jon

the later mounts fit earlier exhausts.., so I don't know the story there.

kevtherev wrote:

jonnyswan1980 wrote:One last question too,

If this is the additional part:

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=630974

How do the silencer cradles attach to the mount so as to point towards the rear of the vehicle and not out towards the sides?

Cheers,

Jon

thats the non cradle retainer/engine mount..
the retainer or engine mount that carries the cradles has mounting lugs on ...they are different

Been searching Through here and this part is what I think I need to fit a late system to an early engine setup - if that is correct anyone know where I can get one??

Just trying to fit new engine and exhaust and this is now messing up any chance of finishing the job any time soon!

Thanks

breakers have them... like the other rare stuff, good luck.