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Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 07:37
by weldore
cheers titus..ive been having a play around with it yesterday(the heater ) and there really is nowt to em,is there.such a simple install,its just finding the right place in the van that dont compromise too much valuable space.
thanks anyways mate

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 07:44
by Titus A Duxass
weldore wrote:cheers titus..ive been having a play around with it yesterday(the heater ) and there really is nowt to em,is there.such a simple install,its just finding the right place in the van that dont compromise too much valuable space.
thanks anyways mate
No probs.
I put mine where the rear heater sat with the duct going off to the left (looking forward), the intake and exhaust ports didn't foul anything.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 09:36
by Cruz
Titus A Duxass wrote: What pictures do you require?
I put my new girlie size propex under the RnR seat, it's a no brainer of an installation.
Just two large holes for the propex intake and exhaust, a hole for the hot air feed duct and wiring.

If you want pictures of it just shout.

Is the wiring to the battery fused?

My real concern is piping into the gas bottle. I want to pipe the heater to the cupboard where the gas bottles are so I need to route some 8mm copper pipe from the heater to an isolator valve in the cupboard then a flexi-hose to the bottle

Do copper pipes need to be flared or do they come already flared?

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 09:54
by Titus A Duxass
Cruz wrote:
Titus A Duxass wrote: What pictures do you require?
I put my new girlie size propex under the RnR seat, it's a no brainer of an installation.
Just two large holes for the propex intake and exhaust, a hole for the hot air feed duct and wiring.

If you want pictures of it just shout.

Is the wiring to the battery fused?

My real concern is piping into the gas bottle. I want to pipe the heater to the cupboard where the gas bottles are so I need to route some 8mm copper pipe from the heater to an isolator valve in the cupboard then a flexi-hose to the bottle

Do copper pipes need to be flared or do they come already flared?

The wiring is a fused supply from the LB.
I bought a metre of copper pipe (8mm), a couple of right angle fittings and a rigid to rubber pipe connector.
All fittings (including the propex iirc) came with olives so did not require flaring.

The gas bottle is located in the "wardrobe" cupboard.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 09:57
by Cruz
Do you have any shots of the piping please?

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:01
by Titus A Duxass
Give me about 20 mins and I'll put some up for you.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:16
by Cruz
Titus A Duxass wrote:Give me about 20 mins and I'll put some up for you.
Cheers

Just looked at the fitting instructions http://www.propexheatsource.co.uk/pdf/X ... ctions.pdf

and it says the pipe fitting is 1/4" and comes with the appropriate olive. Sadly I don't have the olive so a call to propex may be in order

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:22
by Titus A Duxass
Here you go
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View from outside of RnR Bed, you can see the hot air outlet to the right.

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Propex Box inside RnR Bed.

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Overhead shot showing pipe curving round the rear of Propex.

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Pipe work inside wardrobe.

The white box on the rear of the Propex is just a junction box for the wiring. I utilised the redundant rear heater wiring rather than lay new wires.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:34
by Cruz
Cheers Titus. I was thinking of protecting my heater under a wooden structure too

So if I got a 1/4" to 8mm adaptorI can then use 8mm fittings.

I'm still unsure as to how using an olive means you can just use a straight piece of 8mm pipe. Does the olive tighten onto the o/d of the pipe as you tighten the fitting?

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:40
by Titus A Duxass
Cruz wrote:Cheers Titus. So if I got a 1/4" to 8mm adaptorI can then use 8mm fittings.

I'm still unsure as to how using an olive means you can just use a straight piece of 8mm pipe. Does the olive tighten onto the o/d of the pipe as you tighten the fitting?

Yes olive type couplings you just tighten onto straight piping.

I am not sure why you need the 1/4 to 8 converter, I just used 8mm pipe to the propex.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 10:53
by Cruz
Just done a quick revision on how compression fitting work

The X1 heater manual states it uses a 1/4" connection

E D I T: Just a thought. Do you not have a recirculating vent in the seat panel as well as the hot air vent?

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 11:09
by Titus A Duxass
Cruz wrote:Just done a quick revision on how compression fitting work

The X1 heater manual states it uses a 1/4" connection

E D I T: Just a thought. Do you not have a recirculating vent in the seat panel as well as the hot air vent?

No, the Propex gets its air from/through the holes in the RnR Box wall where the piping goes through.
The other thing you can see on the panel is a 240v mains socket.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 11:14
by Cruz
Did you run the exhaust to the offside under the van?

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 11:34
by Titus A Duxass
Cruz wrote:Did you run the exhaust to the offside under the van?

Yes, it's the law over here. Don't want to burn anybody walking by and I don't want to fill my awning with exhaust fumes.

Can I recommend that if you install the gas pipe work yourself you get it checked out by a professional.

Re: Window removal

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 11:50
by weldore
whats all this got to do with removing a window?????

nice thread guys..on both jobs