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Lovely looking lane. There is a standard 110 doing it so no reason why a syncro will not be able to.
Russel

God I really miss my auto V8 Range Rover!

The joys of an auto box in low range. The syncro you force through places like that.

Add a Kango hammer to your list of off road equipment .....

Id pull out the fluffy card on that lane.

Jed ,I ride that quiet often when I pop over to Chloe's parents at Hathersage , That Video was taken back in 2008 and believe you me its much worse now , I have only manage to get down it once with coming off the bike
If you look at some of the shots you will notice that some of the big 'holes' have been back filled with boulders to aid the dissent, This is frowned upon by the peak national park .
Getting back up is nigh on impossible in a 4x4 now , and even on the bike there is one part that is very tricky , and when its wet or has been raining its like a river ...
I very very rarely see any 4x4's doing it now , a few get to the start and turn back because its so bad now and if theres a group of walkers about they never ever move over on the pass. So you just have to sit there until they have gone by and listened to they tutting and comments

Next time I go over I'll take my camera and video it



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYZVGxFR ... re=related hahahha

I'm amazed that the bottom of "Stanage" is a byway at all! My early climbing days were mis-spent up there learning the craft so I know it moderately well.
It's hard enough to walk along the foot of the edge between routes in parts, let alone bike or drive it?!
Just look at the amount of axle articulation shown at 1.30. I know a syncro would 2/3 wheel it but I guess the fact that so many of those Solihull Sheds have raised or no bumper beams speaks volumes.
As for the militant walkers, well...it is a sensitive site (politically and ecologically) and just a bit bullish to drive up there in such numbers maybe?

Its a Roman road , which turns into the old cart way , which was for taking the grindstones from the edge's to Sheffield's little misters

I was under the impression it was under a TRO?
Maybe I'm muddled up with another lane?
Chapel gate?

Chapel Gate was hard enough for Russel and Andy to climb - well what we all photo'd from memory I think it got more challenging after the climb up.
On the point of a spotter - A good spotter can make a route defo so much more smooth without the 'little' arm movements.

Simon Baxter wrote:I was under the impression it was under a TRO?
Maybe I'm muddled up with another lane?
Chapel gate?

Simon , I rode it about a month or so ago , a few bikers where out and using it but no 4x4's,its well rough now.
There was nothing to the top gate or the bottom one to say that a TRO had been placed on it.

peasant wrote:Seriously? Would you really consider giving this kind of terrain a go in a Syncro?

I mean, this is isn't just "difficult" or "potentially damaging" ...with our low ground clearance and large overhangs you WILL do damage there and potentially not only on the bash plates either. Depending on what goes wrong, you're looking at dented sills or main members, bent linkages or driveshafts, not to mention the engine sump (bashplate or not).

If I were taken on that trail, I have to say I'd pull the wuss card on that section and turn around

Agreed re the large over hang certainly and the syncro "achiles heal" but did'nt I read some where that the standard 14" has better ground clearance than a Landy given that they can't do much much with two big diffs hanging down...and that's before you add bigger tyres and a lift kit to a Syncro.

On the latest Devon weekend I recall just ramming an "obstacle" and rode up untill the front wheels got traction. The "bash" plate worked pretty well.

Ground clearance on a standard Syncro is 200 mm, a miserly 10 mm more than a 2WD.

Now guess what the lowest point on a Syncro is? Yepp, you got it ..the engine. That's because after jacking up the body to fit the 4WD drivetrain the engineers realised that things didn't line up any more so they had to lower the engine.

Diff housings on conventional 4x4's are also vulnerable ...but at least they are between the wheels (and therefore less likely to be exposed) and not hung out a good meter behind them like our sumps.

On a rutted dirt/mud track the Syncro might have the advantage, dragging its relatively smooth underbelly over soft dirt, unimpeded by a sticky-out big diff housing ...bouncing over boulders the large overhangs really work to our disadvantage though, as they come down with a crash one meter in front or behind the tyres

peasant wrote:Ground clearance on a standard Syncro is 200 mm, a miserly 10 mm more than a 2WD.

According to the manual the Ground Clearance for a 2WD is 190mm at GVW, the Ground Clearance for a Syncro 14" is 215mm at GVW and for a 16" its 229mm BUT thats at the front ONLY!! The rear ground clearance for a 14" is 193mm and for a 16" its 207mm ....