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blurb55 wrote:

syncropaddy wrote:That looks good. Do you have space to mount a hilift jack on that

Think there may just be space close to the hinges - the hinges are useless for a T3 so need to create something that will work.
More pics as it happens!

Syncropete might be able to come up with something there

Tested earlier today with a Merc ML with an MT fitted and the space vanishes pretty quickly.
There is certainly no room at the handle end and I think it would be very foolish to cantilever all that weight off the body.
Mounting it on the hinge end would be a better option, the wheel weighs enough on its own!
May be doing some cutting, shutting and fabricating over the next week but the nudge bar comes before the spare carrier.
Any thoughts on the hinges appreciated, the ones on this carrier are as wrong as a wrong thing, that's a bit wrong.
Cheers, Paul.

Mounting it on the hinge end would be a better option, the wheel weighs enough on its own!

Mounting it anywhere else would be nuts. Have you weighed a Hilift ???

Why spend all that time on something the EU will make illegal ???

Syncropete might do the hinges for you. Ask him

well there are folks on here and on Brick-Yard who have a hi-lift on the spare wheel carriers that Pete has made for them.

I've seen a few all right. What I'm suggesting that if you do mount a HiLift on the carrier then mount it as close to the hinges as possible. I reckon Pete's hinges and panel strengthening are strong enough to hold both the wheel and the jack. Its a thing I want to do but as I have a genuine VW carrier, I'd have to modify it and I dont want to do that as I prefer originality.

Where did the eye bolts and backing plates come from?

What size are they?

gate hinges

And what, pray tell, is wrong with gate hinges?
Aidan, you kit snob!!
Long thread eyebolts are available at several times the price and so far I have not found any that will be sufficiently long.

gate hinges designed for hanging gates on, no end load just the weight of the gate, mild steel, galvanised after threads cut, galv can cover surface damage that may be stress raiser - not sure I'd want to test them on a kinetic snatch with a stuck 2 tonne truck and I know from experience they can be cut through readily and can snap when rammed by a stolen car from my days managing a nature reserve and putting up many many gates. For wooden gate posts we preferred to use the forged drive in type of hinge pin rather than these through bolts, though they were more expensive and required a bit more skill to fit, but using our own converted oak posts rather than treated softwood they worked splendidly and are still there many years later.


it's a shame that we don't have a good mounting point for the several available recovery eyes that the LR boys have a choice of - the hook type that is on MattFlints van seems to be the only one we can use and they don't seem readily available these days, I think they were ex military and now superceeded.
I went for a second welded on factory style towing eye to spread the load using two points and a short designed for the job webbing strop and shackles readily available from machine mart. The strop can be fitted to the vehicle and popped up over the bumper and foglights out of the way in advance if wading (and drowning or burying in mud) and potential recovery anticipated. The second towing eye would require cutting the bash plate to accomodate, but not an issue with the drop down wheel carrier.

Good points, well made.
So, let me get this straight - they would not be particularly good but there is nothing else available?
I have asked a client in the lifting market to find me some rated eyebolts of a size and strength to suit, they were not overly confident in finding any but I will keep everyone advised of progress. Until then these will have to do - unless anyone else can some up with an alternative?
Cheers, Paul.

Rated eyebolts should be available. They're used in lifting applications I think.

eg. http://www.eye-bolts.co.uk/

Nice link Andy, thanks.

Interesting that the SWL of an M16 is only 1010kg

Even if you had one each side you would need something more like a pair of M24's

That's a big hole through the bumper and beyond.

I'm looking at equipping for both recovery and A frame attachment <braked>

blurb55 wrote:well there are folks on here and on Brick-Yard who have a hi-lift on the spare wheel carriers that Pete has made for them.

Anyone got any pictures of this please. I am interested in how it looks.

jed

Jed, isn't your new Westy heavy enough already without bolting more stuff to it ?

Hi Jed - if you look at the pics of Syncrostans and Ghias they both have them.
Think Mike had an additional bit to carry his HiLift at the opposite end to the hinge, not sure I would want to add that weight to the unsupported end of the carrier, the leverage on the body must be huge.
Or you could look here :http://www.syncroengineering.com/