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Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 05:42
by Nicola&Tony
weldore wrote:diesels dont have them bushes

I was thinking the same thing ('cos I've read it on this very forum before), so now I'm confused! :?

Good job I don't have a diesel I suppose!

Tony

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 08:39
by Aidan
properly refurbed petrol starter from me with new bush £80 if that helps at all :ok
diesel £100, new gears and everything done right

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 08:50
by clartsonly
I didn't think diesels had the bushes either, I am sure I read it on the wiki here.

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 10:17
by Aidan
Diesels have a bush but it's fitted in the nose of the starter, petrol doesn't have a self supporting nose so the bush is in the gearbox bellhousing, not all refurbishers would replace the bush as a matter of course and not all refurbers supply one with a refurb petrol starter, the guy who does my starter and alternator work does

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 02 Apr 2009, 18:03
by weldore
i knew they had a starter rob :roll: its in the glove box aint it?..undr the seat perhaps :wink:
no i thought like prolly many on here that those bushes went in the bell housing on petrols and diesels had the nose cone thing so didnt need em...shows that you can learn summat every day...i did ask about em before and was informed by someone on here that diesels dont have them...

i felt a bit :oops: coz i was mis-informed :roll:

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 12:28
by TOMMY THE CAT
I guess this is what we are talking about then?!
Ok sorry was gonna put up a pic but image shack is not working.
Question the bush does fit in the end of the starter where it engages into the engine?!
Sorry I know it must do but got to ask as the new bush is loads smaller and not the right one??(Jk11137)
The bush on mine was split and quite clearly impeding the starter turning/engaging :cry:
So do I have a different starter motor or something?
Wanted to get the damn thing done today!
Thanks for any help.
dave :D

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 16:10
by Aidan
good old jk they sold you the bush for the petrol engine for fitting in the bellhousing you need 028 911 257 from vw about £1.80 it'll be right :ok

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 16:26
by TOMMY THE CAT
Cool! Only problem now is my vw place aint very interested in getting me bits they were less than helpful when trying to get other parts, said I need to go to a commercial dealership.....funny they said that they couldn't get bits for t25's.
Ta for that Aidan,
dave

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 18:34
by Aidan
I can order it from MAnchester TPS and send it on, call me before 10 monday morning or pm me tonight and I'll sort it.

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 19:48
by TOMMY THE CAT
Thanks for that Aidan I will try Vw tomorrow in person rather than ringing and see how I get on.
I do appreciate that offer mate! :ok
Forgot how great this website is.
Dave

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 05 Apr 2009, 20:03
by dugcati
TOMMY THE CAT wrote:Should they only last 6 years?
Easy to fit?
Dave
No they should be like any other vehicle however if the engine has had a history/issues in the past it is not uncommon for starters to pack up as someo of them have had to endure hours of cranking whilst people tinker with engines....

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 06 Apr 2009, 17:00
by TOMMY THE CAT
Should be here Wednesday, will put it on in the afternoon. Is the soaking in oil 4 24 hours a must or can I copper slip it?
Ta Dave

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 06 Apr 2009, 17:53
by Grun
TOMMY THE CAT wrote:Should be here Wednesday, will put it on in the afternoon. Is the soaking in oil 4 24 hours a must or can I copper slip it?
Ta Dave

TTC,
This from a previous posting on the subject.

No, you don't have to soak the new bush overnight, just pop it on your thumb fill it with oil and squeeze between thumb and forefinger - thanks go to Mr. Simon Baxter of Brickwerks fame for that tip........ you can actually see the oil seep through the sides of the bush! :wink:

Mike

Re: Starter motor then?

Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 17:26
by TOMMY THE CAT
Ok guys and gals still cant get it going!
Changed the bush in the nose of the starter got jump leads on it tried a wee bit of easi start ( I know its evil stuff) and nothing. Just to reiterate the van was going well before I left it over winter :shock:
6 years ago I had the alternator, starter,glo plugs injectors all changed repaired and a new batt.
Its smoking but just wont start very close but just wont fire. As mentioned the last time this happened 6 years ago I went through all the things above finally having the starter reconned and it started. Starter motor again then?
Is there anything else in the starter that can impede the speed it turns over?
I guess the way to check is to give it a tow...if it starts its the starter again.
Otherwise I'm thinking glo plugs (got 12.9v to them) or fuel blocakage/air or timing /pump which I aint gonna mess with.
Best way to check glow plugs....?
Ta in advance Dave :ok