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Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:21
by Ian Hulley
kevtherev wrote:yes chris final answer
(it's gone orange)
Ooooh, unlucky, give him a big hand as Kevin returns to Wolverhampton empty handed !
Ian

Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:26
by davidvincent
Hi
I sympathise with your pain, it's a nightmare when you keep hitting mechanical walls but don't give up, it will come good!
I should mention I have never worked on a T25 diesel... however, my understanding is that a diesel engine has no carburetor and that there is usually only one spark plug, the 'glow' plug to initiate the first turn of the engine, thereafter the diesel engine compresses the fuel to run in comparison with a petrol engine which uses several spark plugs to ignite (rather than compress) the fuel.
I'm sorry I cant offer much in the way of direction other than that I'm afraid... i too am a novice on a huge huge learning curve. Next task for me is starter motor and bush.... i have bought the bits, how tricky did you find it?
Dave
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:27
by kevtherev
???
ok I give up whats wrong then
firing order 1-4-3-2
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:28
by Ian Hulley
davidvincent wrote:I should mention I have never worked on a T25 diesel... however, my understanding is that a diesel engine has no carburetor and that there is usually only one spark plug, the 'glow' plug to initiate the first turn of the engine, thereafter the diesel engine compresses the fuel to run in comparison with a petrol engine which uses several spark plugs to ignite (rather than compress) the fuel.
Dave the 'DG' refers to the engine code for a 78ps petrol engine.
Ian

Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:32
by Ian Hulley
kevtherev wrote:???
ok I give up whats wrong then
firing order 1-4-3-2
The leads to 1 and 2 cross .... your diagram shows 3 & 4 crossing .. I know, I know

but if the leads are set out correctly ya can't get them wrong
Ian.
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:43
by kevtherev
my leads don't cross they just go from the dizzy to the plug.
the diagram is just to show the firing order and cylinder No. really
Surely it wouldn't matter even if you platted them.... as long as you marked them before disconnecting them ?
Fuggin' Tarrant you done me out of a mint!
should've asked the audience

Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:45
by davidvincent
Ian Hulley wrote:davidvincent wrote:I should mention I have never worked on a T25 diesel... however, my understanding is that a diesel engine has no carburetor and that there is usually only one spark plug, the 'glow' plug to initiate the first turn of the engine, thereafter the diesel engine compresses the fuel to run in comparison with a petrol engine which uses several spark plugs to ignite (rather than compress) the fuel.
Dave the 'DG' refers to the engine code for a 78ps petrol engine.
Ian

i see, silly old me ey... i think it was also the 1.9 thing..... i always relate 1900 engines to diesel.
thanks for clearing that up!
dave
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 23:04
by Ian Hulley
AFAIK VW didn't fit the 1.9 oil burners in the T25 ... many others have been grafted in afterwards though, replacing the pitifull remains of blown 1.6 & 1.7 lumps.
Ian
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 11:09
by Aidan
firing order is clockwise 1-4-3-2 so Kev is correct, the disi is actually at an angle and the leads optimum length hence the physical cross over of 1 and 2 leads in practice
you can double check as it's 1234 anticlockwise
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 11:56
by Ian Hulley
It was the crossing over of leads which I said was wrong ... i.e. 1 & 2 cross 3 & 4 don't
Ian.
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 12:32
by y30man5
davidvincent wrote:
Next task for me is starter motor and bush.... i have bought the bits, how tricky did you find it?
It was pretty simple really... difficult to see anything up there but i used a camera phone to see what where the bush was and felt around. I didn't have too much trouble, took about 30min-1hour i think.
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 13:14
by davidvincent
y30man5 wrote:davidvincent wrote:
Next task for me is starter motor and bush.... i have bought the bits, how tricky did you find it?
It was pretty simple really... difficult to see anything up there but i used a camera phone to see what where the bush was and felt around. I didn't have too much trouble, took about 30min-1hour i think.
Ok great, I may get on that this weekend then... nice one.
Dave
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 15:24
by y30man5
kevtherev wrote:

What's the little arrow thing?
My leads appear to be in the same place...
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 15:29
by Mocki
rotor arm and direction of travel........clockwise
Re: Getting desperate now!
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 15:39
by Aidan
clockwise me thinks or does M0cki towers have a backwards clock ?