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Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 15:26
by Ye Olde Syncrospares
itll only bite you if your careless,and if your careless dont use one,its down to the person not the jack,ive been using them for 20 odd years for different applications and not had a incident,ive had bent shafts and broken shearbolts and it still works,one of the best tools for off road use,cj.
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 16:28
by toomanytoys
Looks like CJ should do the "instruction demo".........
Totally agree if you are careless it will bite, but if you dont have one/just got one and dont know how to use it , you need some enlightenment.. a little lesson for those interested would be handy... even those that dont expect to get one its worth it as if you ever come accross one in the future and need to use it (if out with others/in an emergency situation/etc etc) its handy to know... could even be a life saver...

Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 18:47
by PC52
These ones on
ebay don't look to bad, pretty cheap aswell. Think we got ours from Paddock but then it was quite a bit more. Jeds put a link on his post for the adaptor.
As for getting you unstuck mine was first used to get us unstuck, when we did a few green lanes on our own

If it wasn't for that and a shovel we wouldn't of got out.
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 19:01
by HarryMann
one of the best tools for off road use,cj.
Agree with that!
One thing... they need 'running in' for a bit, so don't panic, mine needed a club hammer to get the catch to switch between up and down to start with, then a good steel-capped boot worked a treat and now a quick shove from a finger is sufficient - so nice design, taking into account paint and a bit of initial wear!
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 23:04
by toomanytoys
HarryMann wrote:
One thing... they need 'running in' for a bit, so don't panic, mine needed a club hammer to get the catch to switch between up and down to start with, then a good steel-capped boot worked a treat and now a quick shove from a finger is sufficient - so nice design, taking into account paint and a bit of initial wear!
Yep certainly do.. mine is a lot better now its been used a bit..
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 07 Jan 2009, 02:22
by Syncro G
toomanytoys wrote:Need to have load on the handle when releasing to lower... if the handle is in the upright position (clipped to the main bar) then the thing will drop on the floor instantly... (well my Hi Lift will !!!!!) not the best way to release that load......
If you put it in reverse when the handle is down touching the ground all the load on the jack (the same force you work against when down climbing) will instantly be applied to the handle which WILL snap the handle back against the rack like a mousetrap. If the jack is well lubed and the clip is as bad as they usally are the handle can then bounce back down just enough to release the pin by itself starting the cycle again so the handle flails around violently untill the load is on the floor - very dangerous!! I've had it demonstrated to me in the past, its farly impressive! More load worse it is, surpose the side of a syncro loads the jack alot less than the front of a UMM so it probubly won't flying handle so bad.
Tipically it seems to be the one thing not on youtube.
When there is no load and its put into reverse both pins release, but if its reversed with a load on the tow (even only a few kg) it can down climb (unless its really full of mud, then it doesn't release very well) and both pins can't release together as the load holds them in. The tow only drops the the floor after the load has reached it. You still need to make sure the handle is against the rack before selecting reverse though!
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 07 Jan 2009, 08:33
by toomanytoys
OK, I havent tried mine with any (very small) load on it with the handle up, so dont know for sure it will drop the syncro on the deck... but it certainly does it with my son or daughter standing on it....
Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 07 Jan 2009, 10:32
by Ye Olde Syncrospares
you dont need the handle against the jack when selecting down just need to hold on to the handle properly

Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 07 Jan 2009, 13:45
by lloyd
"Rock Rails" are as said. I've built and used them on several 4x4s. I found 4" x 2" x 4mm tube to be very good. Usually made then so they could be adjusted in and out with angled ends and set so they are out enough to protect sides of vechicle from trees too, not just rocker panels area. Very handy for sliding around rocks and trees.
I know it's not a syncro, but some pics of my last 4x4 with rails
Guy didn't think my street SUV could put a tire on top of the rock.
So I unclipped my swaybar and did it.. Didn't even lock the diffs.

Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 07 Jan 2009, 19:24
by toomanytoys
SYNCROSPARES UK wrote:you dont need the handle against the jack when selecting down just need to hold on to the handle properly

That be how I be doin it....

Re: sill sliders and guards
Posted: 08 Jan 2009, 01:21
by Syncro G
toomanytoys wrote:SYNCROSPARES UK wrote:you dont need the handle against the jack when selecting down just need to hold on to the handle properly

That be how I be doin it....

Well so long as its not left on the floor at the bottem of the last stroke. Once you lift it back up a bit both pins lock in and thats when its safe. Having the handle against the rack is a simple way of making sure it'll be fine which for the unfamilear I think is good advice. If your familear with useing them alot already you know whats what and the shortcuts.