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Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 21:53
by CovKid
Just chucking a non-related tip into the mix here while it occurs to me. Lot of owners have trouble with perished window rubbers leaving black streaks down paintwork. Its no replacement for new rubbers, but if you smear a very thin coat of clear silicon sealant on rubbers, it halts the rubber rot and staining for a year or two.
Sorry, just putting it on the page while I remembered it.
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 07:31
by Mr Bean
woodola wrote:I'ts a little difficult to explain, but it seems that the rubbers are to big to go in, and we we're having trouble keeping the actual rubbers around the glass when trying to fit, they keep popping off, we also keep getting a gap between the two ends. I did however think that they would be better with the inserts inside but was told they must go on the outside, as they would perish quickly?. The chap who came today asked if it was the same window screen, he did manage to get the window screen in after 3hrs but said we needed to re-seat it again when the heats been on it. But said he couldn't fit the sides in as they wont go.

Copy this:
http://www.wilks.co.uk/ProductsList.asp ... tle=Marine
into your web browser and scrole down until you get to the window rubber extrusions -XES0063. Is this he stuff you are trying to fit? Also thisscomes in straight lengths. Is yours moulded as a joined window rubber. This is what I am referring to. When you talk about having the insert on the inside makes it perish I am puzzled. Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Regards
Ken
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 11:58
by CovKid
I don't think shes mentioned inserts. She just wants to refit her side windows.
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 14:21
by Mr Bean
CovKid wrote:I don't think shes mentioned inserts. She just wants to refit her side windows.
Bit early for the panto season but:
I did however think that they would be better with the inserts inside but was told they must go on the outside, as they would perish quickly?.
"Oh yes she did!"

Regards
Ken
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 17:23
by woodola
yes Ken you are right, they are the same type, but mine seem to be the 0066 rubber. today national windscreen came to do them, when i seen what they had done i could of wept

Where the two ends meet it looks like they have used a catterpult to apply some kind of black joining compound of sorts. There is at least a two inch gap where they have inserted another piece. They told my daughter the rubbers were to short but they had cut them?
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 17:29
by AngeloEvs
They were too short so they cut them? Hmm, analysis req, here

too short, cut em and have a 2in gap

.......ah well, at least they are in

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 18:03
by Mr Bean
woodola wrote:yes Ken you are right, they are the same type, but mine seem to be the 0066 rubber. today national windscreen came to do them, when i seen what they had done i could of wept

Where the two ends meet it looks like they have used a catterpult to apply some kind of black joining compound of sorts. There is at least a two inch gap where they have inserted another piece. They told my daughter the rubbers were to short but they had cut them?
Well I am very sorry to hear that. The whole idea of hirering a proffesional is to avoid that sort of thing. Is it the main extrusion which they cut and "joined" or is it the insert? If it is only the insert you could buy it from Wilks (they do a brilliant postal service) and do it properly at your liesure as the worse part is done and the place for the insert is already kind of stretched.
Regards
Ken
Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 18:16
by woodola
unfortunatley its the main extrusion so will have to live with it

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 22:50
by smokeyjon
I bought a set of window rubbers from JK recently as well. I asked them for the rubbers for my van (1989 with factory fitted windows) and they told me that there is only 1 size for 79-90, and this is all they sell. I don't believe this, as I have read elsewhere (brickyard I think, but I couldn't find it again when I looked) that there is a difference in the size of the middle window apertures (sliding door and opposite) on early and late vans. I can't remember whether both are smaller on early vans, or if not which way round it is but the changeover year is 1985. Baxter actually listed the chassis nos. in the thread that I read.
I wonder whether this might be your problem?
Perhaps you can find the thread by searching, or otherwise try VAGCAT.com to see if early and late windows/window rubbers have different part nos.
I told the guy at JK that I'd find the thread and tell him what the difference was but have never managed to find it again. Typical eh!?
Good luck anyway!
John
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 15:33
by DivingDaisee
I didn't find it too difficult putting the rubbers back in ours - although they were the old ones! I did it by myself (but it would be easier and quicker with someone else. Needed to sort the rust out under them before I paint it (see paint your self subject page 34!) Will be fitting new seals after it has been painted.
I bought the glazing tool from seals direct
http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/bbCMS/shop ... rtmentId=4 for £15 delivered (GT75). Although that tool is for putting in the filler (insert) it was also useful for putting in the glass into the rubber as it has no sharp edges.
I placed the rubber into the hole first then fit the glass. One of the window holes was cut too large and the rubber only went over it by about 1mm. I built this up before I refit the window. Woodola - It may be that your window hole was not cut as large - or the glass not cut as small! I don't think that they should be that hard to fit!!! Mine certainly weren't.