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Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 18:50
by Winchweight
Long thin end against the lever arm with the longer finger inboard (towards back plate), fat end on opposite end with the thinner chamfered finger inboard. That looks right from every picture I've seen.
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 19:24
by scaltura
Here's one for you
When shoes and gubbins are fitted...
If you push the right shoe inwards does the left shoe outward a fair bit?
If so.. Clamp hose open nipped push both she's inwards which will drain the cylinder, fit drum and re bleed

Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 19:53
by Winchweight
scaltura wrote:Here's one for you
When shoes and gubbins are fitted...
If you push the right shoe inwards does the left shoe outward a fair bit?
If so.. Clamp hose open nipped push both she's inwards which will drain the cylinder, fit drum and re bleed

It does?.. ok, I'll, try that. Thanks.
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 21:28
by what2do
It's nearly friday - wishing you luck!
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 21:57
by Winchweight
what2do wrote:It's nearly friday - wishing you luck!
I know.... I'm dreaming of brake drums. I'm obsessing about them. I've also got a handbrake cable to change, plus fuel tank filler breather and a filler / tank grommet.
Might bite the bullet and do the cylinders etc as I've got to bleed the brakes anyway. Then I can keep any good parts as serviceable spares.
i know how to live....
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 08:03
by Oldiebut goodie
scaltura wrote:Here's one for you
When shoes and gubbins are fitted...
If you push the right shoe inwards does the left shoe outward a fair bit?
If so.. Clamp hose open nipped push both she's inwards which will drain the cylinder, fit drum and re bleed

Oldiebut goodie wrote:Undo your bleed nipple so that you can push the brake cylinder pistons back in, they are most probably too far out. They are sitting where worn shoes sat!
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 09:52
by Winchweight

I will reattack this later today and see what happens.
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 17:50
by scaltura
How did you get on in your quest ?
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 18:40
by Winchweight
The drum is on, but a bit tight. I had to swap one of the shoes for one I had taken off. It's hardly worn, but there is a noticeable difference in the position if the friction material. I swapped them and the drum slipped on easily...
It's only the one without a handbrake lever, but swapping it made all the difference. Will remove them again next weekend as the new handbrake cables have arrived......
Also filler neck breather and filler / tank grommet to do at the same time.
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 19:24
by scaltura
Must be driving you mad

Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 23:20
by what2do
What was the outcome WW? Shoes and drums fitted successfully?
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 07:04
by Winchweight
Thought I was done then found I'd dropped a spring. However I can now strip and rebuild in around 15 mins including refitting the drum - it's all technique.
So, all back together between downpours plus new handbrake cables. Just need to test drive everything as the drums were still pretty tight when refitted, even with the adjuster backed off, the bleed nipple cracked open and the handbrake cables detached from the balancer...
I'm hoping they will find their own position and all will be good. I'll let you know next weekend.

Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 10:32
by what2do
Bizarre how you've suffered so much with this, that would do my head in because it's not as if you're installing exotic custom parts. Good luck with the test drive.
Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 11:43
by Winchweight
Thanks chap.

Re: Brake drums won't go back on.......
Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 12:41
by California Dreamin
Bizarre why anyone would think slackening off the bleed nipples would do anything! There shouldn't be any pressure in the brake lines and as the ports are open in the master cylinder fluid can expand in to the reservoir if needed (that's why the pistons push back as the fluid is free to go back up the brake lines)
slackening the bleed nipples just gives you a further job of bleeding out air.
My guess is that you have some very poorly made brake shoes, that or your hand brake is on one or two notches lol. Actually, that is a possibility, not that your hand brake is on but someone in the past adjusted the hand brake solely on the cable and the hand brake levers are NOT fully returning to their stops when released.
Martin