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Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 16:49
by toomanytoys
Not just stones, prob more risk from undergrowth/sticks etc.... so if you drive for long distances accross "brush" then they could be usefull....

Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 19:20
by SyncroSam
I got my outer CV from VW. It came with the seal, and the tough boot.
Cheers,
Sam.
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 10:49
by sonic23
The Interparts kit did not come with the sealing ring. So it looks like I'll be contacting Aidan later:

Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 12:00
by toomanytoys
Is it all marked up as an "interparts" product then?
I think the extra seals will be a major issue for anyone wanting to go wading/very dirty conditions..
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 12:30
by syncroandy
If Interparts sold that as being equivalent to the VW Syncro part then send it back under Sale of Goods Act, it's not.
The GKN part is the one to get, see
here.
BTW, it is the 'early' style, the later 'improved' one has a distinct groove into which the boot locates, to reduce the chance of it popping off under extreme use.
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 13:09
by sonic23
Andy - is it really that bad that I have to return them?
I thought I was supposed to bond the boot to the CV anyway (like Clive suggested).
Surely then it's simply a matter of adding one of the after market seals that Aidan has?
Or is there something mechanically that looks wrong about the componet?
Mind you - if the GKN ones comes with the seals then it might be worth just gettiing them.......
Rich
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 15:58
by syncroandy
Obviously it's your call. Personally I would just keep thing simple and use the correct item for my late-spec van. Why complicate things unnecassarily ?
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 22:29
by Aidan
are there any numbers on the boot ? vw ones have lobro id numbers cast in them.
It would be interesting to see the casting marks in the bottom of the joint, under the bearings - that would show who made them, they look right enough and they have the seat for the outer seal which is vehicle specific i think.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 02:29
by HarryMann
As I'm Wiki'ing all this (thanks everyone for adding your edifying comments), it would be nice to wrap it all up with some sort or conclusions:
1) Do the Interpart ones definitely have the mounting ring for the std. outer seal?
[The seal doesn't come in the kit I understand)
2) They are designed for the earlier boot (non lipped), 'A' Part No.
3) The GKN/Lobro ones that SycnroAndy linked to cost how much?
4) These are grooved for the late boot ('F' Part No.) and include the ring and the seal ??
Many thanks....
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 09:34
by sonic23
Hi Clive:
1: No the interparts do not have the sealing ring.
2 I believe they're designed for the earlier boot from Andy's observations of the pictures.
I'm going to give these a go (with the aftermarket seals from Aidan that replaces the original metal ring and seal) so will let everyone know hiow I get on. It's always good to have viable alternatives....and at the end of the day if it costs £106 all in for, 2 outer CVs and seals, and they perform well, then that can't be bad.....
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 10:50
by HarryMann
Ta! Good luck with the job.
If you take the whole shaft off, then note that the inner joint's 6 bolts are 2 mm longer (50mm) then the rear CVJ bolts (48mm), to allow for the spacer plates normally fitted at the front inner, according to ETKA.