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Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 09:04
by AdrianC
Hash brown wrote:I give up, for some reason it's changing the word. I'm trying to say the place that you do the cooking in :?
Ah, the legacy of long-forgotten spammers.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 10:57
by Hash brown
Kitchen

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 20:35
by meggles
Hash brown wrote:As soon as you do any electrical connection in the restricted zone ie bathroom then it need to be registered, even a flex outlet...but no one would ever know, I won't tell on you :D
Thanks for that, as a reward I'll tell you how to spell kitchen. :wink: oh buggar!

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 20:38
by Mark Foss
Main thing Keith it must be RCD protected as its now classed as a 'special location' Agree with others external to bathroom fused spur and a approved flex outlet to towel rail.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 20:41
by billybigspud
As long as it is outside 600 from the edge of the bath/shower enclosure then you can have the spur inside the bathroom. If you have just fitted it though and all the circuits inc lights are not on a 30mA rcd then you need to install supplementary bonding. ( link all pipe work and electrical connections with 4mm cable ).
As you lot love the ' you can't do that because of insurance ' blurb. As stated before, you are not allowed to do any electrical work in a special location (bathroom etc) with out it being signed off part P. Putting 240v electrics in a bathroom is a little higher up the scale than putting aftermarket alloys on a camper van :ok

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 21:06
by meggles
Right, thanks folks. Got some info for when the electrician starts talking scribble. I fully appreciate the need for safety but it's for mother in law so safety isn't important. :wink: JOKING of course!! :lol:

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 21:10
by AdrianC
billybigspud wrote:As you lot love the ' you can't do that because of insurance ' blurb. As stated before, you are not allowed to do any electrical work in a special location (bathroom etc) with out it being signed off part P. Putting 240v electrics in a bathroom is a little higher up the scale than putting aftermarket alloys on a camper van :ok
Bit of a difference between a bit of paperwork approval and putting tyres that are 300kg each shy of the right load rating onto rims an inch too wide... (just to pick one recent example, no offence intended!)

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 09:28
by billybigspud
AdrianC wrote:
billybigspud wrote:As you lot love the ' you can't do that because of insurance ' blurb. As stated before, you are not allowed to do any electrical work in a special location (bathroom etc) with out it being signed off part P. Putting 240v electrics in a bathroom is a little higher up the scale than putting aftermarket alloys on a camper van :ok
Bit of a difference between a bit of paperwork approval and putting tyres that are 300kg each shy of the right load rating onto rims an inch too wide... (just to pick one recent example, no offence intended!)

This is the attitude I am talking about. It isn't just paperwork approval, you have to actually install it correctly. 99% sure that it will have been done wrong to the way they want it done nowadays as most people don't have a modern consumer unit and there is no way that it will have supplementary bonding. Just bear in mind that steam causes condensation which will conduct next time you are stood in a puddle when you get out of the bath.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 09:31
by AdrianC
billybigspud wrote:This is the attitude I am talking about. It isn't just paperwork approval, you have to actually install it correctly.
Getting Part P signoff is just paperwork approval. Whether it's actually been done right or wrong is a different question. Do it right without the paperwork, it's still illegal. Get some idiot cowboy in to do it badly, but scrawl the paperwork out, and it's legal.

Then, of course, there's the subtle point that probably 95%+ of domestic wiring doesn't meet modern regs, because the regs have changed - several times - yet it remains perfectly safe.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 09:49
by meggles
Well I would hope that it will be done correctly, be legal and be safe! That's why I'm doing the donkey work but getting the important and technical stuff done by a fully approved and trained electrician. That way I'll be as safe as I can be and covered on house insurance if things go wrong.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 15:32
by thebobster
"kitchen" is the new swear filter translation for the word "kitchen". It used to read "room with an oven" or some such. I cannot see what would be wrong with leaving it as simply "kitchen" :rofl

I haven't seen any "Kitchen Units Supplied and fitted" spammers for a while to combat whom the swear filter translation was devised, or so I believe.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 17:03
by R0B
I deleted one this morning.And a few more during the week.

Re: Electricians question

Posted: 24 Jan 2015, 18:01
by Oldiebut goodie
Take a look at the members list and see all the would be spammers!