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Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 09:41
by discipleofsketch
The 1.6 CS diesel is non-turbo, on flat ground, with a diesel gearbox will do probably do about max 100 - 110kmh and cruise at about 85km/h. On hills you will slow right down and usually need to drop to 2nd or 3rd gear.

The 1.6 JX engine has a turbo, and therefore slow down less on hills

E D I T: also if yours was an Aircooled, you'll need a radiator somewhere for the diesel!

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 09:56
by ghost123uk
discipleofsketch wrote: E D I T: also if yours was an Aircooled, you'll need a radiator somewhere for the diesel!

Isn't that Subaru engine, currently fitted, water cooled ;)

Ali's link to pic

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 10:13
by discipleofsketch
ghost123uk wrote:
discipleofsketch wrote: E D I T: also if yours was an Aircooled, you'll need a radiator somewhere for the diesel!

Isn't that Subaru engine, currently fitted, water cooled ;)

Ali's link to pic

Ah yes, hadn't seen the pic - what a lovely spacious engine bay!

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 10:23
by ali 254
Thanks to Friends

Ali, was yours an Aircooled van that now has a Suburu engine ?
fabric convocation was air cooled but is subaruo convocation now

Here is a link to a manual for the Diesel powered T25 = CLICK HERE (Odd that Haynes Manuals don't seem to do one for a Diesel :? )
is this gratis version?
No buy for me (technical difficulty)

Yes, possible, but you need experience of the type of work to do it.
Do you need to change the engine too?


subaru Engin:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/wma3tt8tqt3k5u2/url.jpg

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 10:34
by eiret25
ali 254 wrote:I'm turbo setup, is possible?

I would say no. The 1.6d is not able to be retrofited with a turbo where the 1.7d is. I think it comes down to lack of oil jets within the 1.6d engine.

If you want a TD fit a TD, dont mess around fitting a turbo.

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 10:52
by ali 254
Thanks to all

Do you recommend buying the 1.6 liter diesel engine?
The advantages and disadvantages?
I did not notice, the gearbox must be replaced? Or it could be a mediator to solve the problem?
The engine fuel consumption, compared to a gasoline engine (1.6 liters) is low?

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 11:34
by discipleofsketch
ali 254 wrote: Do you recommend buying the 1.6 liter diesel engine?

No, unless you enjoy the challenge of the conversion and collecting obscure parts.

ali 254 wrote: The advantages and disadvantages?

Advantages: better fuel economy
Disadvantages: slower than a 1.6 subaru petrol engine probably (but guessing)

ali 254 wrote: I did not notice, the gearbox must be replaced? Or it could be a mediator to solve the problem?

It would be better with a gearbox from a diesel, but you can use a petrol gearbox with a diesel bellhousing. This mounts the diesel engine at an angle to fit under the lid. With a petrol gearbox you may find the gearing is too high, especially with the very underpowered 1.6 non-turbo diesel. An adapter could be fabricated, but that would be a lot of hassle and expense.

ali 254 wrote: The engine fuel consumption, compared to a gasoline engine (1.6 liters) is low?
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In theory yes, but you haven't stated what economy you are getting from your subaru 1.6 :)

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 12:13
by ali 254
Thank "discipleofsketch"


No, unless you enjoy the challenge of the conversion and collecting obscure parts.
Unfortunately, we live in a place that a lot of these engines can not be found :cry: (T-3 diesel engines)
Also, parts of the engine is too low :cry:

It would be better with a gearbox from a diesel, but you can use a petrol gearbox with a diesel bellhousing. This mounts the diesel engine at an angle to fit under the lid. With a petrol gearbox you may find the gearing is too high, especially with the very underpowered 1.6 non-turbo diesel. An adapter could be fabricated, but that would be a lot of hassle and expense.
thank...I'm attempting to replace the engine, without changing a gearbox...

I just purchased bellhousing...


Meanwhile, the fuel system of the engine, what kind is it? Direct injection or indirect fuel injection?

Does the engine start up, the need to "plug heater" is?

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 12:30
by discipleofsketch
Might be worth reading through this to see what other parts you'll need:-

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/VehicleSpec ... diesel.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Particularly this bit:-

Notes on fitting a Diesel engine to a petrol engined van.

Your going to have to source engine mountings, a Diesel bell housing and spigot shaft, the bellhousing is a different shape and the Diesel spigot shaft is longer. All the coolant hoses, exhaust system, and some way of operating the glow plugs. Basically you need everything out of a Diesel engine bay, pipes, cables, and some wiring, not impossible, just more work.


glow plugs pre-heat the fuel to assist with starting, it might start without but usually with lots of white smoke!

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 13:47
by ali 254
Thanks for your information

glow plugs pre-heat the fuel to assist with starting, it might start without but usually with lots of white smoke!

ok...

The engine at a time, white smoke?

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 13:53
by discipleofsketch
ali 254 wrote:Thanks for your information

glow plugs pre-heat the fuel to assist with starting, it might start without but usually with lots of white smoke!

ok...

The engine at a time, white smoke?

a small amount of white smoke when it starts usually, then it clears as engine warms up.

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 15:02
by ali 254
thank...

That is, the exhaust is clean and smooth?
Completely? ... Even when shifting?

In addition,
Spare parts "fuel systems" on the market?

Can the "spare parts" for other vehicles Sysstm fuel used? Which car?

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 20:57
by discipleofsketch
ali 254 wrote:thank...

That is, the exhaust is clean and smooth?
Completely? ... Even when shifting?

In addition,
Spare parts "fuel systems" on the market?

Can the "spare parts" for other vehicles Sysstm fuel used? Which car?

My 1.6 CS diesel was old, but only smoked at start up.

I think the CS was used in mk1 golf/jetta and caddy

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 21:50
by Oldiebut goodie
ali 254
Why have you sent me a pm with a link to this thread?

Re: Installing the 1.6 diesel engine

Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 21:53
by ali 254
Very Thanks...
I think the CS was used in mk1 golf/jetta and caddy
Place in our lives, these engines can not be found :cry: (Type: Diesel)
I do not have access to the engine ...But "spare parts" are available in one-and two-generation Golf (petrol models)

The "parts" can be used Mercedes-Benz?

Gasoline engine parts (golf first and second generation), can be used for diesel engine 1.6?(Piston, cylinder head, rings, bearings and ...)

ali 254
Why have you sent me a pm with a link to this thread?
For tips
Thank