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Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 19:22
by max and caddy
ninja.turtle007 wrote:What happens when the housing causes an MOT failure? Can the housings be lined?


You ask for an appeal form...

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 19:36
by hally75
max and caddy wrote:
ninja.turtle007 wrote:What happens when the housing causes an MOT failure? Can the housings be lined?


You ask for an appeal form...
Where is the like button.. :D

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 19:41
by lloydy
max and caddy wrote:

I'm 99.9% sure they are....but save your money and glue them in I reckon...it not a bodge..it's an engineering work around..
Mine are glued in now, and I'm happy. Just seem to hear loads of tales of worn housings

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 19:48
by max and caddy
Me too...never seen any like...! Have glued bearings into other stuff however with good results.

Technically the housings don't wear anyway but become oval due to loads being applied...if it was down to wear from a spinning bearing I would junk the housing I must say..

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 21:04
by ninja.turtle007
lloydy wrote:
ninja.turtle007 wrote:
lloydy wrote:Still get them new from classic last time I looked, not cheap though

Cheers.

You right, €201 each.
362euro... 201 is for the abs verion, are they interchangable? if they are and i had standard bearing housings, i'd get them!

Mine has ABS.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 10 May 2014, 21:08
by ninja.turtle007
I used loctite bearing lock but both the rears still have play in the vertical plain. Maybe I didn't use enough.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 11 May 2014, 06:31
by kevtherev
maybe they were born with it.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 11 May 2014, 07:24
by CovKid
:rofl

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 11 May 2014, 19:54
by 123-jn
rear bearings are no problem but you will be bound to have to put new wheel cylinders in and will need a large socket I have a feeling its 46mm and a very large 3/4 bar together with a scaffold tube to get it undone. I borrowed an ex army 3/4 4ft torque wrench to tighten it back up or use the same bar and scaffold arrangement and do it 'tight'. You will also need a selection of large ish tube or sockets to drive the bearings in /out and dont forget to put the spacer tube back in between them!!!! while you are at it clean up the brake backplates and re spray them black etc clean up or replace the self adjusters as well. If you need glue then either you have the wrong bearings or your hub is shot!!!!

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 11 May 2014, 21:49
by CovKid
Wholeheartedly agree on slave cylinders. I always have a brand new pair in my box all the time and nearly always fit them if I have to pull rear hubs. For the price you can get them, its not worth messing. Invariably the bleed nipples on existing ones are seized anyway. No way would I ever pull a rear hub without some - been caught too many times by those and its always on a Sunday....

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 12 May 2014, 21:04
by dekhelia
Did one side rear bearing today. Easy job, really: only difficult bit is to drift the pin out of the lower shoe-mount - had to be brutal, but sometimes brutality is the key.

Backplate is shot, so will have to be replaced. 50 quid a side from JK and other suppliers, holy "pooh". Have ordered some from Germany (assuming that the o/s is shot too ... I suppose that after 30 years it's not going to be in great nick), whwere they're not only cheaper but we get the advantage of a slightly weaker Euro.

Regarding the bearings themselves. As other posters have said, the main thing is to have the right drifts. When you've got a tool that fits, you can't go far wrong.

Use wood as an impact surface where possible. Although having said that, the bearing races and shells I got from B+B Components seem to be sturdy items, and have taken their punishment well.

The 46mm socket and need for a scaffold bar on the rear axle castle nuts are accurate. They're tight to the point where you really need to lean on the scaff pipe ... you think something is bound to break, but it doesn't.

Next is the other side rear bearing, which should be easier now I've had a bit of a practice .... then the front discs, bearings, pads and upper balljoints.

I'm really tempted, having seen the state of the springs and dampers, to replace the eight of them too. They passed the MOT, but featured in the advisory section. Thing is, if I do this, do I also get tempted to do all the trailing arm bushes at the back ...and then all the various bushes at the front?

I'd love to, you know. But then I'd basically be working just to keep the van in better condition than I'm in.

Hey ho.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 12 May 2014, 21:07
by CovKid
I don't know anyone 'tempted' to do trailing arm bushes. I honestly think its the WORST job you'll ever encounter on the whole vehicle. Its like trying to poo a pineapple..... :shock: - with the help of a rusty screwdriver.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 12 May 2014, 21:09
by dekhelia
Haha ... why, what's involved? Specialist equipment, presses, all that malarkey?

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 12 May 2014, 21:10
by ninja.turtle007
CovKid wrote:I don't know anyone 'tempted' to do trailing arm bushes. I honestly think its the WORST job you'll ever encounter on the whole vehicle. Its like trying to poo a pineapple..... :shock: - with the help of a rusty screwdriver.


I'm thinking about doing these too. Can't be any worse that removing and refitting a Syncro fuel tank.

Re: Rear Bearings ... DIY?

Posted: 12 May 2014, 21:14
by CovKid
Well if you have a go, give us plenty of warning so we can bring deckchairs. :D

Man its a pig of a job. Its not so bad if you fit split powerflex ones but even then, getting the old ones out is a right game. I ended up gas-axing mine out.