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Re: Idiots guide to setting timing/Auto distributor

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 16:59
by Sir Brixalot
Yes I looked at the diagram, my timing goes too high as soon as I put on the vacuum pipe.

My understanding is that if the mechanical advance doesn't work then the timing mark wont move when revving(assuming that the vacuum advance lead has been taken off and the vacuum advance nipple is bunged up).

I have revved it with the vacuum off and with the nipple blocked and the timing does still advance correctly. Would this rule out a faulty mechanical advance?

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 18:05
by bigherb
flyinghitop wrote:
I have revved it with the vacuum off and with the nipple blocked and the timing does still advance correctly. Would this rule out a faulty mechanical advance?

Yes

These are the correct figures
Image

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 18:51
by Sir Brixalot
Thanks for the stats, I don't have a pump to check vacuum figures - will look at getting one. Any other ideas for the jump when I put the vacuum lead on?

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 19:03
by itchyfeet
I wonder if, you have the wrong dizzy or vac unit
Have a look on the dizzy there should be a number starting with 025?
Get a pic or two up also often helps us spot something

Also how do you know its 30 degs? Is your gun adjustable?

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 19:17
by Sir Brixalot
I'll get some pics tomorrow - good idea. I've got an auto, it has crossed my mind that I might have the wrong dizzy. I have a spade on the side thats not connected. I use a protractor for the degrees so the measurements might be a bit out but it definitely shoots up at least 20 when I attach the vacuum pipe.

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 19:52
by Sir Brixalot
0237 024 025
025 905 2050 on it

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 22:00
by itchyfeet
Mmm does the auto have a twin vac dizzy?
Dont worry about the spade on the side that's not connected
Away in europe at the mo so can't refer to manuals

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 02 Apr 2014, 22:13
by Sir Brixalot
I wonder if that's the case. Found this on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T25-T3-2-1 ... 0996739728 from last year albeit a 2.1 auto, the bottom number is similar but the top number is different. If there was a specific distributor for autos it's gonna be hard to find. Enjoy your trip

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 05:31
by itchyfeet
So why did you buy a dizzy off ebay what was wrong?
Why are you adjusting it now ? Did you set it when you fitted it or have you just fitted it?
The full piture helps

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 06:08
by Sir Brixalot
The dizzy in my van has been in since I bought the van a couple of years ago. By "found" on Ebay I meant "saw" I was looking for something to compare with the numbers on mine. I'll get some pictures later. cheers

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 06:40
by ghost123uk
bigherb wrote: Image
Nicked a copy of that :ok

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing needed

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 07:00
by itchyfeet
flyinghitop wrote:The dizzy in my van has been in since I bought the van a couple of years ago. By "found" on Ebay I meant "saw" I was looking for something to compare with the numbers on mine. I'll get some pictures later. cheers

What did you see on ebay?
Are those numbers you posted from yourdizzy or ebay? :?

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing/Auto distributor

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 07:20
by Sir Brixalot
Duh -I didn't put the link in for a 2.1 Auto: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T25-T3-2-1 ... 0996739728 which has 0237022053
025905205N

MIne has: 0237 024 025
025 905 2050

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing/Auto distributor

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 07:34
by itchyfeet
The last digit on yours is probably a Q not a zero 025 905 205Q look at the table big herb posted and its there for late dg
Pic on ebay looks like a twin vac dizzy, does yours look the same ?
Somebody must know if an auto needs a different suffix dizzy and if it is twin vac

Twin vac has advance and retard

Re: Idiots guide to setting timing/Auto distributor

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 09:18
by bigherb
Autos use the same dizzy