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Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 22:54
by Cruz
Found this in a manual. I assume this test is on a warm engine with the flap fully open?

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 07:18
by kevtherev
yes

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 18:52
by Cruz
I took the air intake off when the engine was warm and pushed down the flap. It went all the way down and made a "parp" sound which I assume means the pull-down unit isn't working due to a tear in the diaphragm?

http://youtu.be/9D5KnfkRFmE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Musical carb :mrgreen:

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 19:39
by kevtherev
pretty conclusive I'd say

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 21:49
by Cruz
Seems an easier test than the sucking too :lol:

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 22:44
by kevtherev
Cruz wrote:Seems an easier test that the sucking too :lol:
wimp
:roll:










:D

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 01 Mar 2014, 19:26
by Cruz
Kev.

You mention a restrictor in the pipe running from the pulldown unit to the car but there's nothing inside my pipe. Not that I can see anyway. And Etos lists the pipe as a generic 3.5mm hose with an N number with no mention of a restrictor

Could it be the restrictor was stuck on the unit and I just pulled the pipe off that? As it seemed hard to pull off initially

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 09:00
by ghost123uk
I know I am not Kev, but just popped in to say that on mine (and I think this is what Kev meant, he will be along soon to say) the restriction is built into the metal stub pipe that protrudes the the carb's base. (Or I should say, it is like that on my spare carb). The left hand one (as you are looking at the pipes) has a much smaller internal diameter than the other.

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 02 Mar 2014, 12:38
by itchyfeet
Wow another thing learned, i didnt know that was there either :shock:

i cant see how that procedure works tried in on my spare carb think its best to suck it and see

John, the choke pulldown connects at the primary barel side where there is only one connection :D

Image

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 10:17
by kevtherev
Nice picture of the restrictor.. thanks itchy :D
archived

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 10:23
by ghost123uk
itchyfeet wrote: John, the choke pulldown connects at the primary barrel side where there is only one connection :D

Ah yes, I was still blithering on about the two stubs at the base of the carb (I mention this for "clarity" in case of future "lookers" at this thread).

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 10:29
by Cruz
Looking at itchys pic I think (I hope) my restrictor is stuck on the pull down unit inlet when I removed the pipe

Would I be right in assuming a new unit comes with a restrictor? I ask because ETOS doesn't list a part number for the restrictor

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 12:38
by kevtherev
no it doesn't
I have a piece of pipe you can have, I'll dig it out
the restrictor stops the flap from snapping open, it smooths the action preventing hesitation due to a weak mixture during warm up

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 14:23
by Cruz
As I suspected the restrictor is part of the unit and is supposed to be pushed into the inlet port on the pulldown unit. Mine was and you can see it on the images of a vag pulldown unit

on the heritage website (the gold end on the inlet)

http://api.vwheritage.com/_img/products ... EECF2D.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and ebay.de

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VW-Bus-T3-Vergas ... QgPhRk-et/$(KGrHqMOKpIFGLw49p3RBRk-etMH(Q~~60_57.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but not the brickwerks

http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/wp/wp-conte ... 726862.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Possibly you have thought it was supposed to be inside the pipe because it has become detached from the unit in the past

My restrictor pic is attached

Re: yet another hesitant misbehaving engine

Posted: 03 Mar 2014, 15:11
by kevtherev
OK
I see that
I bought a BW one and presumed it came inside the pipe from VW

nice one :D