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Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 22:12
by Cooper
HarryMann wrote:Presume that ratchet handle was only for removing once loosened & doing up loosely
I expect the MOT man will approve

Yep. Got a torque wrench to tighten up properly.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 10:35
by syncropaddy
Cooper wrote:
Yep. Got a torque wrench to tighten up properly.
Did you tighten it up till it clicked and then another bit for good luck?
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 11:26
by Cooper
syncropaddy wrote:Cooper wrote:
Yep. Got a torque wrench to tighten up properly.
Did you tighten it up till it clicked and then another bit for good luck?
No, I done up the bolt just a little with the ratchet then continued with the torque wrench until it clicked.

Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 16:34
by HarryMann
90 Nm (65 ft-lb) Bentley says 9for the bottom nut/bolt
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 17:03
by Cooper
Ok 90nm seems quite a lot.
Probably why is was so hard to get undone.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 17:12
by HarryMann
They are in a quite an exposed position, so usually need cracking off first with a powerbar, might, probably have, been on there for 20 years +
65 ft-lbf in itself isn't a great deal.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 17:43
by syncropaddy
Crack off torque is usually about 20% higher momentarily as you overcome friction. Always remember the quoted torque figures are given for new nuts and bolts, dry and undamaged.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 19:12
by max and caddy
Crack off talk? Sounds expensive!
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 19:58
by syncropaddy
max and caddy wrote:Crack off talk? Sounds expensive!

Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 19:17
by Cooper
What a balloon burst.
I went to local coachworks place who does a lot of body work repairs, restos and other stuff.
Basically asked for a quote for fixing the same problem that jeffdub has with the jacking point.
He looked at it and said "no I'm not prepared to do that" so brilliant basically.
Plus I saw to do t4's and one T5 outside the Coachworks.
So I have a bit of a dilemma.
Do I do it myself or get someone else to do it.
Also just behind the jacking point there is a nice big hole that I need to fix.
I've just bought an auto darkening Weld helmet which is good just in time to fix hole.
Question:
Is the U.K.'s equivalent of chassis safer IE dinitrol (however you spell it) rubber based?
As I want to clean up chassis and treat it. also other rusty components.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 20:30
by armyphil
If yoan weld door skins and other bits a jacking point will be a walk in the park for you, if your asking if waxoil on the chassis will catch fire when you weld..... Yes it will but not enough to poo yourself over.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 21:05
by Cooper
armyphil wrote:If yoan weld door skins and other bits a jacking point will be a walk in the park for you, if your asking if waxoil on the chassis will catch fire when you weld..... Yes it will but not enough to poo yourself over.
It's not the jacking point it's a good 1/4 that has been pushed up. Take a peek at jeffdubs thread and his pic on there is both sides of mine is proper pushed up. And I think it is an integral part of the structure so am a little worried:(
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 21:31
by ELVIS
nothing is impossible!
The chap im 'apprentice' to has just 'made' 14" arches into 16" using all metal and hardly any filler work and has moved front jacking points/outriggers/closing panels on cills to accomodate 235/85/16s.
Look at Dai's van aswell!
Anyone with a bit of talent/skill can do anything with metal. If your chap cant (1) Go elsewhere (2) Suggest to them to find a new career!

Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 10:59
by Cooper
Yeh just would make it Easyer if someone else did it.
Hay ho.
+ this guy restores Chevys, hot rods all sorts that attempt buggered so a job like mine should be well easy for him.
Re: THE SYNCRO JOURNEY!
Posted: 21 Jul 2012, 09:31
by max and caddy
Maybe he just didn't fancy a big rusty van clogging up his workshop...just because he can do it don't mean he wants to, he could of just priced himself out the job but instead just declined it, The hardest thing with owning old stuff is finding somebody to fixit for you these days, it just doesn't make money is the bottom line or if it does other jobs pay better and are cleaner. Just done inner sills etc on my pick up and it's a Oribble job, it's mine so I managed to actually give a "feck" until the end of it but to do someone elses van? No ta..
I reckon if you want it done cheap and quickly....forget it, it wont be cheap and right.
Do it yourself....think you can? Done anything like this ever? Once the arms off and metal chopped out there's no going back. A helmet is a start, but your going to need lots of other gear as well. And time, and expect all the rust you can see to be the tip of the iceberg....normally the case!