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horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 12:14
by tee3peeo
1985 14" DG Syncro



I'd be grateful for some advice please.

I'm upgrading my original horn to something a bit less weedy - is the original horn earth activated or positive activated.

many thanks

Zeb

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 12:37
by syncroandy
I've fitted dual-tone horns from late-90's Golf or Passat to mine. Extra wire is needed from the relay plate to the horns, as they're quite juicy and need full voltage to operate properly. There's a relay to add to the relay plate, and I followed the factory wiring, as for the T3 Carat. Well worth it. Toot toot !

PS. Doing it the 'tidy way' means just rejigging a few connections at the back of the relay plate and adding a new connector 'L', which may be a bit hard to find, it is used in Golf 1 and early Golf 2 dash harnesses. A possibly simpler alternative may be just add a separate relay and wire directly to that.

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Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 12:38
by Titus A Duxass
I have a Strebel Nautilus (with relay) fitted where the original 2WD hooter was.

More than loud enough.

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:24
by T3luestar
I also have a Strebel horn and as said it's more than enough, its one of the best upgrades I've done. It's an easy job to take a live feed from the battery and fit a relay, well worth it.

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 14:32
by tee3peeo
cheers for all the comments - still not sure if that makes the original horn negative or positive activated - I'm guessing earth activated but it would be great to have that confirmed,

many thanks
Zeb

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 15:22
by kevtherev
I find the original horn unique, loud and irritating.

Every thing you need in an "I'm here" noise.

Earth activated.

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 15:46
by tee3peeo
many thanks Kevtherev
:)

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 19:16
by bigherb
tee3peeo wrote:cheers for all the comments - still not sure if that makes the original horn negative or positive activated - I'm guessing earth activated but it would be great to have that confirmed,

many thanks
Zeb
Yes earth switched

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 19:38
by itchyfeet
earth switched as in the horn push on the steering wheeel grounds the horn circuit.
you will find at the standard horn 12v on one terminal and the other wire goes via the steering wheel horn push to ground at the steering column.

had 2 tone horns for a year not got around to fitting yet, don't use it much, deffo needs relay though.

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 19:49
by tee3peeo
thanks bigherb and itchy feet - I had the horns for a while and got sick of the dust on them - I wish I'd got a Strebel Nautilus though - if only for the name..
:)

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 22:08
by Sir Brixalot
As it needs a 30 amp relay - does that mean I need 30amp wire as well. It seems easier to wire straight the battery or am I missing something?

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 22:36
by Oldiebut goodie
You would still need to uprate the horn push contacts and the earth from the horn if not using a relay. A relay would be simpler by utilizing the stock wiring+ horn push and then running the uprated wire to the relay and horn.

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 05:57
by CovKid
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Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 07:15
by Sir Brixalot
Thanks Mate. I'm going to use that method including your big red button. Should I use 30amp wire

Re: horn upgrade

Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 09:24
by bigherb
Sir Brixalot wrote:Should I use 30amp wire
Depends on what horns your fitting but 1.5mm2 would be enough.