VW Electrics Standard Headlights - Revision history

CovKid at 09:56, 22 November 2015

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	~~==Square Headlight inner adjusters==~~

	~~'''Cruz'''~~

	~~Adjusters needed for each square inner light~~
	~~1x 255-941-133A~~
	~~2x 255-941-141B~~

	You may or my not be aware but the headlight adjusters for the square inner main beam headlights are obsolete and the only source is to buy expensive reproductions from America which at my last reckoning was about £36 (gowesty) for adjusters for both inner lights not including any taxes or customs charges at this end which may apply

	Having recently found a source of the obsolete 191-941-297 headlamp adjuster at eurocarparts I thought I'd have a look to see if an adjuster from another VW vehicle of that era would suffice and I came across adjusters from a Mk2 Golf (picture below)

	~~Adjuster 191-941-133 is a perfect replacement for 255-941-141B~~

	Adjuster 191-941-141 is just about 5mm shorter than 255-941-133A so the inner light will just sit that little bit lower than the dipped headlight unit in the grill but once you have had them aligned it shouldn't affect the functionality of the high beam.

	~~The 141 adjuster has a slotted head and not a pozi drive head. But that is a small price to pay I say.~~

	~~Tonight I tried the adjusters in my headlight frame and they fit the holes fine.~~

	~~So onto the two sources for these parts.~~

	~~Both adjusters are available from eurocarparts and eurowagens with free shipping.~~
	~~One is cheaper than the other.~~

	~~For each inner light you need 2 x 191-941-141 and 1 x 191-941-133~~

	~~[[File:Headlight-adjusters-inner1.jpg]]~~

	~~Eurocarparts~~
	~~191-941-133 @ £2.39 Eurocarparts number 470440331~~
	~~191-941-144 @ £3.48 Eurocarparts number 470440341~~

	~~Eurowagens~~
	~~191-941-133 @ £1.49~~
	~~191-941-141 @ £1.49~~

	~~Eurowagens regularly do a set of 3 adjusters on ebay (a kit for each inner light) for £5.49~~
	~~http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/eurowagensltd~~

	~~So basically instead of £36+ you can get a set for the inner lights for less than a tenner~~

	~~Hopefully people can follow this~~


	~~'''Current availability of Adjuster as at March 2011'''~~

	~~Below is a post I made on the brick-yard regarding availablity of adjusters for square headlights~~

	~~----------------------------------------------------~~

	~~Some available still from VW, some not~~

	~~2 x Number 10 - 255-941-141C adjusting screw for horizontal adjustment available (24/2/11)~~


	2 x Number 11 - 191-941-297 adaptor with adjusting screw for vertical adjustment - obsolete from VW in the UK but available from classic parts in germany and eurocarparts.com (eurocarparts part number 470440351 and available from eurocarparts as of 24/2/11)

	~~2 x Number 8 - 255-941-133 adjusting piece available (24/2/11)~~

	~~10 x Number 8A - 7L0945299 - Little plastic clips for the screw heads available~~

	~~adjusters for square main beam light~~

	~~2 x Number 9 - 255-941-141B obsolete not available from classic either~~

	~~2 x Number 12 - 255-941-133A obsolete not available from classic either~~

	~~[[File:Headlight_adjusters2.JPG‎]]~~
	~~[[File:Adjusters2.jpg]]~~

	==Adjusting headlights==		==Adjusting headlights==

CovKid: /* Round headlights - Aftermarket */

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	You can buy them through powerfuluk on ebay for around £40 the pair. Excellent bright and focused beam which puts Hella units to shame.		You can buy them through powerfuluk on ebay for around £40 the pair. Excellent bright and focused beam which puts Hella units to shame. They're lightweight and can easily be fitted using three cable ties and the adjustment screws unaffected.

	For reference, I marked a wall with chalk prior to removing headlights and the new lights lined up perfectly with those marks but you may wish to mark a wall like this in case you do have to readjust yours.		For reference, I marked a wall with chalk prior to removing headlights and the new lights lined up perfectly with those marks but you may wish to mark a wall like this in case you do have to readjust yours.

CovKid: /* Round headlights - Aftermarket */

2015-07-17T20:29:58Z

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	I have concluded that these units are almost certainly the same as those fitted to the Ambassador car, common on India's streets. Certainly thats where they're made. They are Autopal HL-101 units and they make fancier versions with fluted reflectors but these are bog standard reflectors. For under a tenner, they're a bargain but remember you'll need clips to hold them in place. The big plus perhaps is once you've made up the clips, there are a whole host of 7" lights you can now fit including ones with built-in LEDs, fluted reflectors and goodness knows what else. Checkout ebay and other places and you'll see what I mean. Good as Hella units are, there are some very neat units out there now.		I have concluded that these units are almost certainly the same as those fitted to the Ambassador car, common on India's streets. Certainly thats where they're made. They are Autopal HL-101 units and they make fancier versions with fluted reflectors but these are bog standard reflectors. For under a tenner, they're a bargain but remember you'll need clips to hold them in place. The big plus perhaps is once you've made up the clips, there are a whole host of 7" lights you can now fit including ones with built-in LEDs, fluted reflectors and goodness knows what else. Checkout ebay and other places and you'll see what I mean. Good as Hella units are, there are some very neat units out there now.


	The alternative is to pay £45+ for complete Hella headlight assemblies from JK and others but for the sake of three clips, they're worth a shot, plus you increase the possible headlight candidates. I think I paid £8.80 for each one. :D

	Alternatively you could fit these:		Alternatively you could fit these:

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2015-07-17T20:29:20Z

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	Now refit headlamp assemblies, connectors and headlight grill.		Now refit headlamp assemblies, connectors and headlight grill.

	Bear in mind they ARE curved headlights rather than flat like stock ones but you don't really notice to be honest. The light pattern is ~~pretty~~ good.		Bear in mind they ARE curved headlights rather than flat like stock ones but you don't really notice to be honest. The light pattern is fairly good - for the price.

	I have concluded that these units are almost certainly the same as those fitted to the Ambassador car, common on India's streets. Certainly thats where they're made. They are Autopal HL-101 units and they make fancier versions with fluted reflectors but these are bog standard reflectors. For under a tenner, they're a bargain but remember you'll need clips to hold them in place. The big plus perhaps is once you've made up the clips, there are a whole host of 7" lights you can now fit including ones with built-in LEDs, fluted reflectors and goodness knows what else. Checkout ebay and other places and you'll see what I mean. Good as Hella units are, there are some very neat units out there now.		I have concluded that these units are almost certainly the same as those fitted to the Ambassador car, common on India's streets. Certainly thats where they're made. They are Autopal HL-101 units and they make fancier versions with fluted reflectors but these are bog standard reflectors. For under a tenner, they're a bargain but remember you'll need clips to hold them in place. The big plus perhaps is once you've made up the clips, there are a whole host of 7" lights you can now fit including ones with built-in LEDs, fluted reflectors and goodness knows what else. Checkout ebay and other places and you'll see what I mean. Good as Hella units are, there are some very neat units out there now.
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	The alternative is to pay £45+ for complete Hella headlight assemblies from JK and others but for the sake of three clips, they're worth a shot, plus you increase the possible headlight candidates. I think I paid £8.80 for each one. :D		The alternative is to pay £45+ for complete Hella headlight assemblies from JK and others but for the sake of three clips, they're worth a shot, plus you increase the possible headlight candidates. I think I paid £8.80 for each one. :D

			Alternatively you could fit these:

			[[File:7inchlucas6.jpg]]

			You can buy them through powerfuluk on ebay for around £40 the pair. Excellent bright and focused beam which puts Hella units to shame.

	For reference, I marked a wall with chalk prior to removing headlights and the new lights lined up perfectly with those marks but you may wish to mark a wall like this in case you do have to readjust yours.		For reference, I marked a wall with chalk prior to removing headlights and the new lights lined up perfectly with those marks but you may wish to mark a wall like this in case you do have to readjust yours.

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

2015-02-28T14:46:56Z

Adjusting headlights

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	You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.		You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.

	Remember, dipped beam should give you enough light to see a good proportion of the tarmac in front of you but in ~~now~~ way in the eyeline of others or lighting up trees. On full it doesn't matter ~~and~~ MOT testers are only concerned with dipped beam and how that might affect you and others.		'''Remember''', dipped beam should give you enough light to see a good proportion of the tarmac in front of you but in no way in the eyeline of others or lighting up trees. On full it doesn't matter. MOT testers are only concerned with dipped beam and how that might affect you and others.

	Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.		Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

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	You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.		You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.

			Remember, dipped beam should give you enough light to see a good proportion of the tarmac in front of you but in now way in the eyeline of others or lighting up trees. On full it doesn't matter and MOT testers are only concerned with dipped beam and how that might affect you and others.

	Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.		Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

2015-02-28T14:41:14Z

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	Going back to a straight road once more, the kick on the left is designed to help pick out road signs etc, and should start at the kerb edge. If you look at the right kick, it effectively directs light away from oncoming traffic and should start at centre line of road. What little light is left on opposing lane (horizontal line) needs to be below eye level of oncoming traffic.		Going back to a straight road once more, you'll see that the kick on the left is designed to help pick out road signs etc, and should start at the kerb edge. If you look at the right kick and its angle to the white dotted line on the road, it effectively directs light away from oncoming traffic and for that reason should start at centre line of road. What little light is left on the opposing lane (horizontal line) needs to be below eye level of oncoming traffic.

	You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.		You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

2015-02-28T14:33:25Z

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	If you want the maths, there is a prescribed setting for adjustment: http://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram1.gif		If you want the maths, there is a prescribed setting for adjustment: http://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram1.gif

	But theres a much easier way to ~~set them~~ and still get them right...		But theres a much easier way to carry out headlight adjustment and still get them right...

	These are my ~~lights~~ (round ones) on dipped on a dark country road. There is a good spread of light but they still conform. There are basically two things you need to get right, the placement of the kicks (where the light goes off at an angle) and where the cutoff point (light at bottom, dark at top) sits in each lane. Confused? You won't be. Its actually very simple.		These are my headlamps (round ones) on dipped on a dark country road. There is a good spread of light but they still conform. There are basically two things you need to get right, the placement of the kicks (where the light goes off at an angle) and where the cutoff point (light at bottom, dark at top) sits in each lane. Confused? You won't be. Its actually very simple.

	[[File:Dip7drl.jpg]]		[[File:Dip7drl.jpg]]

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

2015-02-28T14:29:45Z

Adjusting headlights

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	[[File:Dip7drlmark.jpg]]		[[File:Dip7drlmark.jpg]]

	Going back to a straight road once more, the kick on the left is designed to help pick out signs etc, and should start at the kerb edge. If you look at the right kick, it effectively directs light away from oncoming traffic and should start at centre line of road. What little light is left on ~~that side~~ (horizontal line) needs to be below eye level of oncoming traffic. ~~This may help anyone trying to set them up from scratch and get them right.~~ You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point ~~and quite~~ a few places set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will ~~pass alignment check~~.		Going back to a straight road once more, the kick on the left is designed to help pick out road signs etc, and should start at the kerb edge. If you look at the right kick, it effectively directs light away from oncoming traffic and should start at centre line of road. What little light is left on opposing lane (horizontal line) needs to be below eye level of oncoming traffic.

			You only have to look at height of the beams then. Make minor adjustments to height to allow for suspension bounce so that your lights aren't continually straying into the eyes of others on rough roads but cover the dipped area well. Headlight aligners simply get you to that point but even when set by the book, they often need tweaking. Quite a few places actually set them too high in my experience. You should NOT be lighting up the backs of drivers heads. Set them like this and they will be right.

	Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.		Each headlight has two adjustment screws - one for height, the other for lateral side-to-side adjustment.

CovKid: /* Adjusting headlights */

2015-02-28T14:25:28Z

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	(Penned by Covkid)		(Penned by Covkid)

	Accurately adjusted headlights are not only a legal requirement, it ensures you can see where you're going with maximum light on the road and importantly - without dazzling others. The settings are made on dipped beam only. Full takes care of itself. You could have them professionally aligned but I've come across too many instances where the lights on dipped are too high and now ALWAYS set my lights as here.		Accurately adjusted headlights are not only a legal requirement, it ensures you can see where you're going with maximum light on the road and importantly - without dazzling others. The settings are made on dipped beam only. Full takes care of itself. You could have them professionally aligned but I've come across just too many instances where the lights on dipped are too high and now ALWAYS set my lights as here.

	If you want the maths, there is a prescribed setting for adjustment: http://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram1.gif		If you want the maths, there is a prescribed setting for adjustment: http://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram1.gif