VW Electrics Ignition Coil - Revision history

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Ignition Coil - Types

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	The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It will just run for a longer period of time without attention. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps although I imagine it demands a little more from your battery.		The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It will just run for a longer period of time without attention. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps although I imagine it demands a little more from your battery.

	~~''However'', the grey coil is not a direct swap/replacement unless you also change the HT lead connection.~~ The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.		The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.

	In most cases, the green label variety is the correct one if you have a late (86-90) engine but a grey sticker one might be fitted to your vehicle and could also be retro-fitted if the above points are noted. A coil for extended service life has some advantages, particularly if you're averse to maintenance but the whole ignition system, plugs leads, rotor and cap must be in good order if you're to avoid arcing. It stands to reason that the more ooomph supplied by the coil, the harder it is to contain and direct the voltage to where its needed - remember Dr Frankenstein?		In most cases, the green label variety is the correct one if you have a late (86-90) engine but a grey sticker one might be fitted to your vehicle and could also be retro-fitted if the above points are noted. A coil for extended service life has some advantages, particularly if you're averse to maintenance but the whole ignition system, plugs leads, rotor and cap must be in good order if you're to avoid arcing. It stands to reason that the more ooomph supplied by the coil, the harder it is to contain and direct the voltage to where its needed - remember Dr Frankenstein?
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	Secondary resistance [between terminals 1 & 4] - 6.9kΩ to 8.5kΩ		Secondary resistance [between terminals 1 & 4] - 6.9kΩ to 8.5kΩ

	~~Read note above for differences between green and grey stickered types. They are '''not''' a straight swap.~~ Brickwerks advise that you check to see what colour sticker is on yours before ordering although if its a PIN-connector type and theres no label, the green one is probably the one you want ~~as they are the most common~~.		Brickwerks advise that you check to see what colour sticker is on yours before ordering although if its definately a PIN-connector type (post-85 usually) and theres no label, the green one is probably the one you want.

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	'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''		'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''

	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984~~-85 which~~ has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector~~, after~~ that, green label and grey label PIN-type coils ~~for later~~ 1986-1990 ~~vehicles~~.		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984 (and possibly 1985). It has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector. After that, VW moved to the green label and grey label PIN-type coils (1986-1990).

	The simpler DIN connections (see photo of distributor cap below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset - you can soon check by removing a lead. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!		The simpler DIN connections (see photo of distributor cap below) are like those found on classic Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset - you can soon check by removing a lead. Also, if you change from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]		[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]

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	The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.		The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.

	The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It will just run for a longer period of time without attention. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps.		The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It will just run for a longer period of time without attention. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps although I imagine it demands a little more from your battery.

	''However'', the grey coil is not a direct swap/replacement unless you also change the HT lead connection. The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.		''However'', the grey coil is not a direct swap/replacement unless you also change the HT lead connection. The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.

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	The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.		The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.

	The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps.		The grey sticker version (191 905 115 A), also a PIN connector type, is basically a 'punchier' version of the green one although that does not mean you'll get more power from your engine - get that idea out of your head. It will just run for a longer period of time without attention. It has a higher secondary resistance and is capable of higher HT voltage. It is designed for long life plugs and extended servicing, and according to BigHerb can fire a worn plug with larger gaps.

	''However'', the grey coil is not a direct swap/replacement unless you also change the HT lead connection. The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.		''However'', the grey coil is not a direct swap/replacement unless you also change the HT lead connection. The HT leads also need to be in good order and/or good quality for this type of coil otherwise the higher voltage will find a much easier route to earth than through the spark plug - ie the potential for arcing increases. Brickwerks list one made by Beru and one made by Bosch.

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Ignition Coil - Types

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	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, after that, green label and grey label PIN-type coils for later 1986-1990 vehicles.		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, after that, green label and grey label PIN-type coils for later 1986-1990 vehicles.

	The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset - you can soon check by removing a lead. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!		The simpler DIN connections (see photo of distributor cap below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset - you can soon check by removing a lead. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]		[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]

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Ignition Coil - Types

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	'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''		'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''

	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, ~~then a~~ green label and grey ~~labelled~~ PIN-type ~~coil~~ for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, after that, green label and grey label PIN-type coils for later 1986-1990 vehicles.

			The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset - you can soon check by removing a lead. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]		[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]

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	'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''		'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''

	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors ~~where~~ leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors with leads that have a hole in the end which click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change both leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]		[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]

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Ignition Coil - Types

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	'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''		'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''

	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s ~~with~~ no centre ~~pin~~, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections (see photo below) are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s and have no centre pins, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]		[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]

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	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s with no centre pin, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s with no centre pin, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!

			[[File:dindizzy.jpg]]
			Photo: ''DIN type connectors with no centre pins (early)''

	The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.		The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.

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Ignition Coil - Types

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	'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''		'''Basic Coil Types - T25'''

	Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). ~~Firstly~~ theres the early coil (211 905 115 B)used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s with no centre pin, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!		Brickwerks list three types of coil for petrol engines (see below). If your engine bay isn't a complete mutant, firstly theres the early coil (211 905 115 B) used up to around 1984-85 which has the older DIN-type push in HT lead connector, then a green label and grey labelled PIN-type coil for later 1986-1990 vehicles. The simpler DIN connections are like those found on Beetles and Type 2s with no centre pin, whereas 86-on T25s tend to have PIN connectors where leads click into pins in the distributor cap and coil. Know this from the outset. Also, if you go from an early DIN connection coil to a later PIN connection coil, you'll need to change leads and cap to PIN-type too!

	The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.		The green label one (211 905 115 D) is the most common of all for late engines. This is a PIN connector type.