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Hacksawbob: /* Aircooled CT timing by Sarran */

2012-11-21T20:05:36Z

Aircooled CT timing by Sarran

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Hacksawbob: /* Aircooled CT timing by Sarran */

2012-11-21T20:05:19Z

Aircooled CT timing by Sarran

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Hacksawbob: /* Aircooled CT timing by Sarran */

2012-11-21T20:05:01Z

Aircooled CT timing by Sarran

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Hacksawbob at 20:03, 21 November 2012

2012-11-21T20:03:16Z

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			== Aircooled CT timing by Sarran==
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CovKid: /* 009 Distributor */

2010-09-30T20:53:57Z

009 Distributor

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	What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.		What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.

	The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and ~~JK see it~~ as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp) but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. If you want to go faster, shed some weight in the van - the 009 won't turn your engine into a power-hungry beast. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like and where an all-advance dizzy is better suited. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match. Don't do it.		The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and some retailers promote the 009 as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp), but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. If you want to go faster, shed some weight in the van - the 009 won't turn your engine into a power-hungry beast. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like and where an all-advance dizzy is better suited. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match. Don't do it.

	== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==		== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==

CovKid: /* 009 Distributor */

2010-09-30T20:51:48Z

009 Distributor

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	What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.		What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.

	The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and JK see it as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp) but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. If you want to go faster, shed some weight in the van - the 009 won't turn your engine into a power-hungry beast. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like and where an all-advance dizzy is better suited. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match.		The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and JK see it as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp) but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. If you want to go faster, shed some weight in the van - the 009 won't turn your engine into a power-hungry beast. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like and where an all-advance dizzy is better suited. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match. Don't do it.

	== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==		== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==

CovKid: /* 009 Distributor */

2010-09-30T20:50:45Z

009 Distributor

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	'''CovKid:'''		'''CovKid:'''

	The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.		The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. The dizzy also plays a part in emmissions. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.

	What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.		What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.

CovKid: /* A/c distributor Part Nos. */

2010-09-30T20:49:31Z

A/c distributor Part Nos.

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	If you have to go down the "009" route... that requires another set of thinking as they dont have vac advance and nowhere near enough total mechanical advance. (See CovKid's note below on 009 distributors)		If you have to go down the "009" route... that requires another set of thinking as they dont have vac advance and nowhere near enough total mechanical advance. (See CovKid's note below on 009 distributors)

	==009 Distributor== - '''CovKid:'''		==009 Distributor==

			'''CovKid:'''

	The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.		The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.

CovKid: /* A/c distributor Part Nos. */

2010-09-30T20:49:01Z

A/c distributor Part Nos.

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	If you have to go down the "009" route... that requires another set of thinking as they dont have vac advance and nowhere near enough total mechanical advance. (See CovKid's note below on 009 distributors)		If you have to go down the "009" route... that requires another set of thinking as they dont have vac advance and nowhere near enough total mechanical advance. (See CovKid's note below on 009 distributors)

	'''CovKid:''' ~~- 009 Distributor~~		==009 Distributor== - '''CovKid:'''

	The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.		The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.

CovKid: /* A/c distributor Part Nos. */

2010-09-30T20:45:47Z

A/c distributor Part Nos.

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	'''CovKid:''' - 009 Distributor		'''CovKid:''' - 009 Distributor

	The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25, not without a lot of modifications.		The 009 is too maxed out for a stock engine. To be any real use you need the works, ie a rebuilt and performance tuned engine to match it. I've seen engines ruined in no time by 009s set up wrong. I've owned VWs for 25 years and built many performance engines and on a stock, you will get good all round and economical performance with a stock dizzy. VW didn't fit vacuum advance and retard units for fun. On a performance engine (built for thrashing) you can afford to diversify with power curves and wotnot. If your stock one is tired or broken, '''DO''' source another or find a good lathe man that can strip it and make new parts if needed. The 009 is NOT a direct substitute despite the claims and is totally unsuited to a T25 or at least not without a lot of modifications.

	What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.		What saddens me is that in all that time this mad myth that fitting a 009 somehow supercharges performance, persists. Whether its the close proximity to 007 (as in Bond) or because its primarily a custom/performance part I don't know, but I've run with and without and I'd opt to have a stock one rebuilt than waste time with one of those. I have used 009s but ONLY on highly tuned engines built from the bottom up. Those that have done similar will agree with me on this I'm sure.

	The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and JK see it as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp) but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match.		The short answer is yes you '''can''' get a 009 to work (and JK see it as an ideal replacement for reasons beyond my grasp) but its your own funeral if you find your engine doesn't last too long or develops secondary problems. These engines are not cheap to replace or as easy to work on as bug engines. Most T25s are also grossly underpowered considering the weight they're having to move and the 009 has a different curve and tends to make the engine run hotter than it should do. If you want to go faster, shed some weight in the van - the 009 won't turn your engine into a power-hungry beast. As I say, the only engines I've ever fitted them to successfully are ones with performance cams and strengthened valve-train components where you can toy with lift ratios and the like and where an all-advance dizzy is better suited. Its completely wasted on a stock and all wrong. It doesn't match.

	== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==		== Some basics on Vac Adv Retard systems ==