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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T21:10:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg|600px|thumb|left]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T21:09:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg|600px|thumb|left]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T21:09:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg|600px|thumb|left&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://club8090.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Parts_-_Modifications_-_Oil_cooling&amp;diff=17591"/>
		<updated>2025-11-03T21:07:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg|400px|thumb]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
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		<title>File:Cooler 1010 new.jpg</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T21:04:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T21:04:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_1010_new.jpg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:39:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:37:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013_new.jpg]] [[File:Cooler_1009_new.jpg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:36:36Z</updated>

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		<title>Parts - Modifications - Oil cooling</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:35:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==T25 diesel oil-cooling==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Standard 1.6TD (JX) installation uses a &#039;heat-exchanger&#039; same as the WBX petrols. This is fitted  to the filter housing between it and the filter element. Piped into water coolant, so initially oil warmed quickly, subsequently oil cooled as it gets hotter than water.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst this is probably just about adequate for a std. JX from new, TD diesels put a lot of heat into the oil due to the piston cooling oil-jets and the fact that these diesels put a lot of heat into the oil at higher revs and power levels. T25s are heavy and draggy so always cruise at high powe levels (relative to cars)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is generally known that 1.6 TDs and esepcially 1.9TD conversions heat their oil a lot, and high oil temps then reduce oil pressure. 110~120C and more when hill-climbing in hot weather are quite common... 130C is considered too hot long term, even for fully synth oils. This will shorten engine life.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, it is highly recommended that additional oil-cooling is fitted. The normal solution seems to be a pressed-plate oil cooler having 19 rows or more (16 minimum) and full width (235mm) up-front fitted in front of the main coolant radiator usually at the bottom. This entails long hoses and an adapter plate (Mocal?) for the oil filter housing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rear mounted coolers can be arranged to alleviate high oil temps, though it has to be well thought out to be effective enough  (similar to rear water/air charge-cooler installation)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Front-mounted oil-cooler==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;Mick&amp;amp;Tracey:&#039;&#039;&#039; Any particular oil-cooler I should look at for my ex Seat Ibiza 1.9TD?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search eBay for MOCAL or British make (avoid grey-boxed un-named Chinese copies) - try to get new if poss. 19 row ideally, 1/2 BSP fittings prob. about best (I went mad and used 3/4&amp;quot;). £30 ~ £50 if lucky, they&#039;re £100 new... it&#039;s the hoses that&#039;ll cost unless you can find a tame cash source, [i]about[/i] 13.5&#039; and 14.4&#039; required (about!). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Adapter plate SP1 or OTSP1 from [http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oil_Cooler_Take_Offs_38.html thinkautomotive ] as well as other suppliers (see Parts suppliers)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rear mounted oil-coolers==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Require large fan running continuously; need to ensure fan assists natural air-flow direction; yet something else to get dirt blocked on a syncro; avoids long hose runs; but long hose runs add to oil capacity, generally a good thing; unless outside engine bay adds even more heat to engine bay air, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Installation ideas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cooler_013.jpg]] [[File:Cooler_1009.jpg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Alternative engine Golf GTI</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:26:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Parts and tools required==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A relatively simple swap is to go from WBX or diesel to I4 VAG group engines. These have been fitted to a bewildering array of VAG group vehicles and are available in many different flavours, most notably in this instance in 1.8 and 2.0 8V fuel injected configuration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+ Fantastic parts availability, engines are cheap and robust, improved economy over WBX engines, conversions don’t need much in the way of custom parts, much keener to rev.&lt;br /&gt;
- Not as smooth as a WBX, not as much low torque&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I4 engines can be fitted using T25 &#039;&#039;&#039;Diesel&#039;&#039;&#039; mounting bars, waterpipes, sump, gearbox bellhousing, starter motor, oil pump pick up and clutch etc. A key issue in this conversion is the intake manifold – this fouls the chassis rail on a bus, when the engine is mounted at 50degrees. To get around this issue I recommend light impact adjustment on the chassis rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The installation is not difficult, but depends on what parts and facilities you have to work with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you have the following from a &#039;&#039;&#039;Diesel&#039;&#039;&#039; T25?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gearbox bellhousing; Bellhousing tinware; Starter motor; Mounting bars; Sump; Diesel input shaft, or grinder to cut the WBX shaft down; Waterhousings for head and water pump; Full set of water pipes; Clutch; Flywheel; &lt;br /&gt;
Do you have the following facilities?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bunch of spanners and sockets; torque wrench; Engine hoist; axle stands; welder and exhaust tubing (or ability to put up with 20bhp loss of power caused by running the JX turbo with the guts removed and then plated over)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Big hammer; The confidence to beat one of your chassis rails with the big hammer (or cut and weld it up nicely); A multimeter and some basic wiring skillz, innit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;ve got all that then you&#039;re probably fit to go on a GTI conversion. The only big gotchas are knowing you need to fit a diesel spigot bearing in the end of the crank and that you don&#039;t tighten the diesel sump bolts until you&#039;ve securely attached the gearbox to the engine, or you can pull one end of the sump off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; With the taller 2.0 in-line Gti, there can be an inlet manifold/chassi rail interference problem that even a big hammer might not be sufficient for, unless you want your truck crabbing up the road. Gas heat or a cut  and weld up might be one solution, as might taking some metal off a couple of the cast ally inlet manifold pipes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oil Quantity/Dipstick Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
 Oil quantity on all Diesel kit mounted (52 degree angle) engines can be critical, too much being the real problem &lt;br /&gt;
 4.5 litres is about max. (without allowance for an additional oil cooler, a good addition to these installations) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr Self Destruct:&#039;&#039;&#039; (GTI installation) The only problem I have now is how to go about fitting the diesel dipstick to the gti block, anyone have any advice? Or do I stick with the original dipstick? &lt;br /&gt;
Is it feasible to fill the proper amount of oil in the sump, then measure it on the dipstick and take that as nominal?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Diamond Hell:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
With the sump off you can simply drive out the GTI dipstick with a tool as advanced as a long M8 bolt. The dieseldonicely one then slides into the hole. The only issue you are then faced with is how to secure it. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fill the sump with the correct quantity of oil and stamp whatever dipper you decide to use at the point the oil comes up to. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Chad:&#039;&#039;&#039; fitted an 8V GTI into mine on saturday. &lt;br /&gt;
I found the seal on the diesel lump was knackered so i cut the GTi and the diesel dipstick tubes at the point where they meet the spigot (push fit into the block on a GTi) and welded therm together. I stuck a screw driver up the two halves to keep them concentric. Used the diesel dipstick and I&#039;m going to fill it with the &#039;book volume&#039; of oil and mark the pipstick to suit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Also note that with some diesel dipsticks the correct oil level won&#039;t even get be on the bottom, so shortening the dipstick tube is the normal remedy (for the AAZ boys anyway). About an inch and a quarter from memory, or where there&#039;s a natural change in section, so that the yellow plastic scroll-clip can be re-fitted, finishing it all nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_01_new.JPG]] [[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_02_new.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_03_new.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Correct oil level is then about minimum on stick, but calibrate it anyway, with 4.5 litres + allowance for oil cooler if fitted (another 0.5 ~ 0.75 litres depending on cooler size and pipe run)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hooking up a 2E (Mk. 3) Golf ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;timot25:&#039;&#039;&#039; I am new to the VW scene since buying a 1986 T25 panel van off a guy who blew the head gasket of the original 1.6&lt;br /&gt;
 diesel and was mid way through installing a 2l Mark 3 Golf GTi engine. Having problems locating the engine code, the sticker on the&lt;br /&gt;
 top of the timing belt cover has partly disintegrated, I can read 2E which I assume is the first part of the engine code?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fuel tank is in but with four wires trailing out behind it, the red/yel and brown ones are for the fuel pump, not sure what the other two are for as it looks like the gauge sender is already connected?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for the engine wiring etc, the ECU and loom is all there, i&#039;m just struggling to link everything up. So, I have several questions for which I apologise in advance! I do have some mechanical knowledge having built a GTM Spyder Kit car but then the wiring seemed particularly easy. So, here goes with the questions. If anyone lives near the Walton-on-Thames area in Surrey and feels they could spare me an afternoon helping get this thing going, that would be much appreciated!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039; - There is no lamda sensor in the exhaust manifold, will this affect the ECU&#039;s ability to perform?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;2&#039;&#039;&#039; - Fuel rail, which is in and which return (1or2 see pics). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where should the vacuum T piece go (3). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is the other small exiting pipe beneath this pressure/vacuum bit go not seen in pic (4).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/Fuelrail.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;3&#039;&#039;&#039; - What should this ?breather connection (5) be connected to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/Breather.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;4&#039;&#039;&#039; - Opposite end of intake manifold, (6) what pipe should go here? Is it the brake vacuum servo pipe?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/endofintake.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;5&#039;&#039;&#039; - What goes into here (7)? Should it be a sensor of some sort?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/sensorlocationmaybe.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;6&#039;&#039;&#039; - What pipe goes on here (8)? Is it from the coolant expansion tank cap?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/returnfromexpansiontankcapmaybe.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many thanks in advance if you&#039;ve made it to the end of this long post firstly, and secondly if you are able to offer any advice please!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1 fuel in&lt;br /&gt;
2 fuel out&lt;br /&gt;
3 connects to inlet manifold, other pipe could be mfa or ecu&lt;br /&gt;
5 should connect to no 7 and then onto the pipe near the throttle in the pic.&lt;br /&gt;
6 brake servo&lt;br /&gt;
8 would go to header tank in a golf, block it off for a t3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lambda sensor will be required.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;timot25:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah ha Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The intake pipe that fits on to the throttle body has a hole to accept the pipe next to it, but also has another hole which I guess number 5 might connect to too. I&#039;m sure a sensor of some sort must be involved at number 7 as it has a large circlip type thing for it. I may be a bit stuffed with regard to the Lambda sensor as there is nowhere on the exhast manifold to put one. Is there an easy way round this?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is nowhere on the ECU for a vacuum pipe and I don&#039;t know what an mfa is with regard to number 3!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No 5 connects on the rubber pipe between throttle and air flow meter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
N0 7 just has a pipe which comes out and instantly reduces in size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lambda sensor is best in exhaust front pipe as near to manifold as possible to get nice and hot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mfa is the display on the dash which tells lies about mpg.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust pipe with lambda sensor boss about £30?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Engine code on block might be stamped near distributor on flat smooth boss.. forward of dizzie below cyl 3 ?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Alternative engine Golf GTI</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T20:25:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Parts and tools required==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A relatively simple swap is to go from WBX or diesel to I4 VAG group engines. These have been fitted to a bewildering array of VAG group vehicles and are available in many different flavours, most notably in this instance in 1.8 and 2.0 8V fuel injected configuration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+ Fantastic parts availability, engines are cheap and robust, improved economy over WBX engines, conversions don’t need much in the way of custom parts, much keener to rev.&lt;br /&gt;
- Not as smooth as a WBX, not as much low torque&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I4 engines can be fitted using T25 &#039;&#039;&#039;Diesel&#039;&#039;&#039; mounting bars, waterpipes, sump, gearbox bellhousing, starter motor, oil pump pick up and clutch etc. A key issue in this conversion is the intake manifold – this fouls the chassis rail on a bus, when the engine is mounted at 50degrees. To get around this issue I recommend light impact adjustment on the chassis rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The installation is not difficult, but depends on what parts and facilities you have to work with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you have the following from a &#039;&#039;&#039;Diesel&#039;&#039;&#039; T25?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gearbox bellhousing; Bellhousing tinware; Starter motor; Mounting bars; Sump; Diesel input shaft, or grinder to cut the WBX shaft down; Waterhousings for head and water pump; Full set of water pipes; Clutch; Flywheel; &lt;br /&gt;
Do you have the following facilities?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bunch of spanners and sockets; torque wrench; Engine hoist; axle stands; welder and exhaust tubing (or ability to put up with 20bhp loss of power caused by running the JX turbo with the guts removed and then plated over)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Big hammer; The confidence to beat one of your chassis rails with the big hammer (or cut and weld it up nicely); A multimeter and some basic wiring skillz, innit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;ve got all that then you&#039;re probably fit to go on a GTI conversion. The only big gotchas are knowing you need to fit a diesel spigot bearing in the end of the crank and that you don&#039;t tighten the diesel sump bolts until you&#039;ve securely attached the gearbox to the engine, or you can pull one end of the sump off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; With the taller 2.0 in-line Gti, there can be an inlet manifold/chassi rail interference problem that even a big hammer might not be sufficient for, unless you want your truck crabbing up the road. Gas heat or a cut  and weld up might be one solution, as might taking some metal off a couple of the cast ally inlet manifold pipes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oil Quantity/Dipstick Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
 Oil quantity on all Diesel kit mounted (52 degree angle) engines can be critical, too much being the real problem &lt;br /&gt;
 4.5 litres is about max. (without allowance for an additional oil cooler, a good addition to these installations) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr Self Destruct:&#039;&#039;&#039; (GTI installation) The only problem I have now is how to go about fitting the diesel dipstick to the gti block, anyone have any advice? Or do I stick with the original dipstick? &lt;br /&gt;
Is it feasible to fill the proper amount of oil in the sump, then measure it on the dipstick and take that as nominal?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Diamond Hell:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
With the sump off you can simply drive out the GTI dipstick with a tool as advanced as a long M8 bolt. The dieseldonicely one then slides into the hole. The only issue you are then faced with is how to secure it. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fill the sump with the correct quantity of oil and stamp whatever dipper you decide to use at the point the oil comes up to. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Chad:&#039;&#039;&#039; fitted an 8V GTI into mine on saturday. &lt;br /&gt;
I found the seal on the diesel lump was knackered so i cut the GTi and the diesel dipstick tubes at the point where they meet the spigot (push fit into the block on a GTi) and welded therm together. I stuck a screw driver up the two halves to keep them concentric. Used the diesel dipstick and I&#039;m going to fill it with the &#039;book volume&#039; of oil and mark the pipstick to suit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Also note that with some diesel dipsticks the correct oil level won&#039;t even get be on the bottom, so shortening the dipstick tube is the normal remedy (for the AAZ boys anyway). About an inch and a quarter from memory, or where there&#039;s a natural change in section, so that the yellow plastic scroll-clip can be re-fitted, finishing it all nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_01_new.JPG]] [[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_02.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_03.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Correct oil level is then about minimum on stick, but calibrate it anyway, with 4.5 litres + allowance for oil cooler if fitted (another 0.5 ~ 0.75 litres depending on cooler size and pipe run)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hooking up a 2E (Mk. 3) Golf ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;timot25:&#039;&#039;&#039; I am new to the VW scene since buying a 1986 T25 panel van off a guy who blew the head gasket of the original 1.6&lt;br /&gt;
 diesel and was mid way through installing a 2l Mark 3 Golf GTi engine. Having problems locating the engine code, the sticker on the&lt;br /&gt;
 top of the timing belt cover has partly disintegrated, I can read 2E which I assume is the first part of the engine code?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fuel tank is in but with four wires trailing out behind it, the red/yel and brown ones are for the fuel pump, not sure what the other two are for as it looks like the gauge sender is already connected?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for the engine wiring etc, the ECU and loom is all there, i&#039;m just struggling to link everything up. So, I have several questions for which I apologise in advance! I do have some mechanical knowledge having built a GTM Spyder Kit car but then the wiring seemed particularly easy. So, here goes with the questions. If anyone lives near the Walton-on-Thames area in Surrey and feels they could spare me an afternoon helping get this thing going, that would be much appreciated!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039; - There is no lamda sensor in the exhaust manifold, will this affect the ECU&#039;s ability to perform?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;2&#039;&#039;&#039; - Fuel rail, which is in and which return (1or2 see pics). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where should the vacuum T piece go (3). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is the other small exiting pipe beneath this pressure/vacuum bit go not seen in pic (4).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/Fuelrail.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;3&#039;&#039;&#039; - What should this ?breather connection (5) be connected to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/Breather.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;4&#039;&#039;&#039; - Opposite end of intake manifold, (6) what pipe should go here? Is it the brake vacuum servo pipe?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/endofintake.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;5&#039;&#039;&#039; - What goes into here (7)? Should it be a sensor of some sort?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/sensorlocationmaybe.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;6&#039;&#039;&#039; - What pipe goes on here (8)? Is it from the coolant expansion tank cap?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/timbrabants/returnfromexpansiontankcapmaybe.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many thanks in advance if you&#039;ve made it to the end of this long post firstly, and secondly if you are able to offer any advice please!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1 fuel in&lt;br /&gt;
2 fuel out&lt;br /&gt;
3 connects to inlet manifold, other pipe could be mfa or ecu&lt;br /&gt;
5 should connect to no 7 and then onto the pipe near the throttle in the pic.&lt;br /&gt;
6 brake servo&lt;br /&gt;
8 would go to header tank in a golf, block it off for a t3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lambda sensor will be required.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;timot25:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah ha Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The intake pipe that fits on to the throttle body has a hole to accept the pipe next to it, but also has another hole which I guess number 5 might connect to too. I&#039;m sure a sensor of some sort must be involved at number 7 as it has a large circlip type thing for it. I may be a bit stuffed with regard to the Lambda sensor as there is nowhere on the exhast manifold to put one. Is there an easy way round this?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is nowhere on the ECU for a vacuum pipe and I don&#039;t know what an mfa is with regard to number 3!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No 5 connects on the rubber pipe between throttle and air flow meter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
N0 7 just has a pipe which comes out and instantly reduces in size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lambda sensor is best in exhaust front pipe as near to manifold as possible to get nice and hot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mfa is the display on the dash which tells lies about mpg.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust pipe with lambda sensor boss about £30?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Engine code on block might be stamped near distributor on flat smooth boss.. forward of dizzie below cyl 3 ?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; The rear brakes on the T25 are self-adjusting single-leading shoe drum brakes.&lt;br /&gt;
 The backplates are originally quite thick galvanised steel pressings (handed L/R). &lt;br /&gt;
 After 15 ~ 20 years they can rust through in places or rust-weld themselves to the bearing housing on which they are mounted &lt;br /&gt;
 This entry provides information, tips and techniques to help remove, refurb or replace them with new ones.&lt;br /&gt;
 Syncros are identical to 2WDs and can deteriorate even faster of course &lt;br /&gt;
 N.B. The front disc splash plates are of similar construction and can rust in much the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==brickwerks kit==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Some Fitting notes by Hacksawbob&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brickwerks supply a &amp;quot;Backplate kit&amp;quot; This includes the backplates, drums, shoes, dowels, handbrake cables, lower mounting pivot points, lower locating pivots, brake cylinders all in the region of £300 It also includes the springs cups and pins that are missing from budget offerings from other suppliers [http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/t3-parts/t3-brake-parts/t3-rear-brake-kit-complete.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s what you need to know. The dowels don&#039;t come fitted. You will need to hammer them in or get them pressed in. It is awkward on a press without the right set up. The dowels have a chamfered end and a rounded end, general consensus is that it doesn&#039;t matter which way around they go. They should be flush on the inside of the lower pivot block though. It may be easier to fit the chamfered side into the backplate especially if you are hammering them in to get them straight.  The kit doesn&#039;t come with the lower mounting M10X20mm bolts (X2 each side) , so you can reuse your own. If you are buying new you may need to source them from a specialist as they need to be 10.9 tensile strength or above. I fitted mine with 12.9 tensile strength hex cap socketed 30mm bolts and added some nuts the other side as belt and braces (also to keep the bolts clean the other side) however the bolts weren&#039;t long enough for the nylock bolts to engage so maybe 40mm might be better? If you decide to paint your back plates it may be an idea to mask off the dowel mounting poit and the handbrake cable holes as these are very tight fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;other items you might need&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The kit doesn&#039;t come with hub nuts and split pins. If you are going to do this right (and after spending North of £300 you are the sort of person that likes to do it right!) The hub nut is a use once item, although people do re-use while you are ordering your brake parts you make think about replacing the hub nuts and slit pins for new. If you are fitting this kit you &#039;&#039;&#039;WILL&#039;&#039;&#039; need to remove the hub nut. you will need a 46mm socket and a big breaker bar, or a 46mm smackable hub nut remover by EMPI [https://www.google.co.uk/#q=46mm+hub+nut+remover] about £11 from just kampers. These nuts are supposed to be done up to 500NM, a torque wrench for this would cost upwards of £300 so the smackable job works out cheap unless you can rent one! If you mark the hub nut and hub before you remove it, then count the number of turns before it comes free you will have a good idea of how much to put it on, so long as when you remove the wheel retaining part of the hub with the wheel bolts on it you don&#039;t move the wheel thereby changing the position of the starting thread (like I did!)Jed has a video on this here http://campervanculture.com/2011/07/jed-replaces-the-rear-wheel-bearing-on-his-t25-vanagon-syncro/ be very careful with the brake lines using this method, it is very easy to introduce kinks into the brake lines if you aren&#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Part Nos ==&lt;br /&gt;
To start with, these are the VW Part Nos:&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 425D backplate - Left (1) &lt;br /&gt;
251 609 426D backplate - Right (1) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You may also need the lower pivots (Mounting Insert for brake shoe - 4 off) - if you can&#039;t free up and remove them from the old backplates &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 209 (4) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and the plugs to bung the adjuster hole up are:- &lt;br /&gt;
113 609 163&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Beaker says:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
As of 5th April, 2006 the price was:&lt;br /&gt;
£51.03 plus vat from VW each, inserts(plugs) £3.67+ each &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_new_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Baxter:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, for the price it&#039;s now worth arsing about with second hand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HM:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, at £10/hour, Simon&#039;s right, must have spent 3-4 hours at least refurbing just one, but its back on and looks good, but still not new... depends how much dosh you can spare and how long you can wait to get them (a week minimum usually)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t forget to get a new set of springs and bits and pieces (GSF, about £10) and make a good job refurbing the auto-adjuster bar. Use castrol PH zinc based grease on pivots and rubbing points. GSF do new drums and shoes at a good price if VW scare you off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039; Original VW riveted shoes are much better than the aftermarket bonded-ones. (Highly likely - general opinion is that aftermarket brake parts vary from &#039;&#039;Not as good as OEM&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;shocking!&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Removing ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these backplates are getting as thin as paper by now, others will be relatively easy to remove. So Rbest read the whole text before starting the job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Strip the shoes and springs off; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Try to remove the handbrake cable from its steel sleeve in the backplate. These normally seize badly, so a brush up, some pen oil and then gripping on the larger diameter plastic sleeve at the back with a pair of large wide jawed pliers or grips , start to twist it back and forth until you can also start pulling it out a bit. Either remove completely if possible or then leave it until the backplate is right off. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clamp the brake hose carefully, rremove the hydralic connection to the slave cylinder, undo the single bolt holding it on and remove it, by scraping off any rust around its edge and twisting if necessary to free it up; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heavily wire brush and pen oil the area behind the plate where the two M10 bolts and the central dowel are located (at the bottom pivot). Undo the two 17mm bolts at the bottom; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the edge of the large central hole where it fits over the bearing housing and the behind it where it sits against the bearing housing mating face... to how badly it is rusted on; scrape around the edges front and backwith the flat of a screwdriver to remove any deep rust scale before trying to remove the whole backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternately, try tapping the sides from behind, adjacent to the bearing housing and then with a fairly stout punch, start to drive the dowel pin between the bolt-holes from the back, under the housing; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Repeat the above loosening procedure, looking for where it has freed up and come away from the housing and where it hasn&#039;t. You may have to strike the dowel fair and square the first time to initially loosen it, &#039;&#039;&#039;but don&#039;t keep driving this until the backplate has broken its seal and come away&#039;&#039;&#039;. Keep pulling gently and tapping from behind at the top; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remove the handbrake cable sleeve from the backplate uisng a twisting action. the palstic sleeve often takes quite a bit of punishment but can be fettled up before refitting the backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the backplate for damage and decide if good, bad or ugly... The first two can be repaired, and refurbed. if it is holed here and there but substantially sound, a MIG welder can fill them in and sometimes rebuild small sections with beads of weld or in extremis, weld steel patches in, but not in keyareas that mate with shoes, springs or the bearing housing at the back.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Welded_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refurbing (and MIG welding up holes)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a bad one I MIG&#039;d up in a lot of places, the whole thing around the boss was full of pinholes, and I strengthened it across the top spring hanger, and around the edges here and there where I thought it&#039;s stiffness had been compromised. MIG on low or even lowest setting and build a bead bit by bit around the holes, before then filling them in. Grind off carefully where necessary (I used a Rotozip with see-thru flexdisc). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that the braking loads don&#039;t go through the backplate, they&#039;re taken straight out by the wheel bearing hub casting at the top cylinder and bottom pivots. Thus the backplate only really acts in a supporting and positioning role. As long as it&#039;s still square and true, not too flexible, and basically waterproof from behind (plug the adjuster holes with bungs), then it should do the job OK. The flat mating face of the bearing housing supports it quite well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A lot of the welding up was to fill holes and not for strength, but where it mates to the casting face, any welds need to be ground reasonably flush, or don&#039;t even bother welding them up. IMO it could even be stiffened up sufficiently by pop-rivetting nicely made plates on the back of it if necessary and care taken not to foul the housing or any moving parts, but doubt MOT testers would agree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are my efforts, after a quick few thin coats of Weld-thru zinc primer. About an hour or so &#039;chipping&#039; heavy rust flakes off, using a bearing scraper in those deep rim pressings [[General Engineering Scrapers]], just perfict! Clamp it down to a bench first and wear gogs...&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Refurbed_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite a bit of MIGing, but the outer rims weren&#039;t &#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039; rusted through, if they&#039;re really bad you&#039;d need to be quite devoted to repair the whole thing, and better than me at welding too. Brazing would be a good option here, if you have gas. (MOT testers would fail a backplate with the rims rusted through, as not only do they provide a lot of stiffness, but prevent water ingress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clean threads and free-up push/adjusting rod (auto adjuster rod/star adjuster), to give a freely spinning ratchet wheel and then fill tube with PH grease and lightly lubricate threads. NB. These threads are handed, the right-hand-side having a left-hand thread. {Copper-slip is often used as a substitute for Castrol PH lime-based grease}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Push_adjusting_rod_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brakes Rear brake servicing| Rear brake servicing; Goto 3rd section - &#039;&#039;Re-fitting those shoes and springs&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Brakes Rear Backplate</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; The rear brakes on the T25 are self-adjusting single-leading shoe drum brakes.&lt;br /&gt;
 The backplates are originally quite thick galvanised steel pressings (handed L/R). &lt;br /&gt;
 After 15 ~ 20 years they can rust through in places or rust-weld themselves to the bearing housing on which they are mounted &lt;br /&gt;
 This entry provides information, tips and techniques to help remove, refurb or replace them with new ones.&lt;br /&gt;
 Syncros are identical to 2WDs and can deteriorate even faster of course &lt;br /&gt;
 N.B. The front disc splash plates are of similar construction and can rust in much the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==brickwerks kit==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Some Fitting notes by Hacksawbob&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brickwerks supply a &amp;quot;Backplate kit&amp;quot; This includes the backplates, drums, shoes, dowels, handbrake cables, lower mounting pivot points, lower locating pivots, brake cylinders all in the region of £300 It also includes the springs cups and pins that are missing from budget offerings from other suppliers [http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/t3-parts/t3-brake-parts/t3-rear-brake-kit-complete.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s what you need to know. The dowels don&#039;t come fitted. You will need to hammer them in or get them pressed in. It is awkward on a press without the right set up. The dowels have a chamfered end and a rounded end, general consensus is that it doesn&#039;t matter which way around they go. They should be flush on the inside of the lower pivot block though. It may be easier to fit the chamfered side into the backplate especially if you are hammering them in to get them straight.  The kit doesn&#039;t come with the lower mounting M10X20mm bolts (X2 each side) , so you can reuse your own. If you are buying new you may need to source them from a specialist as they need to be 10.9 tensile strength or above. I fitted mine with 12.9 tensile strength hex cap socketed 30mm bolts and added some nuts the other side as belt and braces (also to keep the bolts clean the other side) however the bolts weren&#039;t long enough for the nylock bolts to engage so maybe 40mm might be better? If you decide to paint your back plates it may be an idea to mask off the dowel mounting poit and the handbrake cable holes as these are very tight fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;other items you might need&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The kit doesn&#039;t come with hub nuts and split pins. If you are going to do this right (and after spending North of £300 you are the sort of person that likes to do it right!) The hub nut is a use once item, although people do re-use while you are ordering your brake parts you make think about replacing the hub nuts and slit pins for new. If you are fitting this kit you &#039;&#039;&#039;WILL&#039;&#039;&#039; need to remove the hub nut. you will need a 46mm socket and a big breaker bar, or a 46mm smackable hub nut remover by EMPI [https://www.google.co.uk/#q=46mm+hub+nut+remover] about £11 from just kampers. These nuts are supposed to be done up to 500NM, a torque wrench for this would cost upwards of £300 so the smackable job works out cheap unless you can rent one! If you mark the hub nut and hub before you remove it, then count the number of turns before it comes free you will have a good idea of how much to put it on, so long as when you remove the wheel retaining part of the hub with the wheel bolts on it you don&#039;t move the wheel thereby changing the position of the starting thread (like I did!)Jed has a video on this here http://campervanculture.com/2011/07/jed-replaces-the-rear-wheel-bearing-on-his-t25-vanagon-syncro/ be very careful with the brake lines using this method, it is very easy to introduce kinks into the brake lines if you aren&#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Part Nos ==&lt;br /&gt;
To start with, these are the VW Part Nos:&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 425D backplate - Left (1) &lt;br /&gt;
251 609 426D backplate - Right (1) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You may also need the lower pivots (Mounting Insert for brake shoe - 4 off) - if you can&#039;t free up and remove them from the old backplates &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 209 (4) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and the plugs to bung the adjuster hole up are:- &lt;br /&gt;
113 609 163&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Beaker says:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
As of 5th April, 2006 the price was:&lt;br /&gt;
£51.03 plus vat from VW each, inserts(plugs) £3.67+ each &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_new_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Baxter:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, for the price it&#039;s now worth arsing about with second hand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HM:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, at £10/hour, Simon&#039;s right, must have spent 3-4 hours at least refurbing just one, but its back on and looks good, but still not new... depends how much dosh you can spare and how long you can wait to get them (a week minimum usually)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t forget to get a new set of springs and bits and pieces (GSF, about £10) and make a good job refurbing the auto-adjuster bar. Use castrol PH zinc based grease on pivots and rubbing points. GSF do new drums and shoes at a good price if VW scare you off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039; Original VW riveted shoes are much better than the aftermarket bonded-ones. (Highly likely - general opinion is that aftermarket brake parts vary from &#039;&#039;Not as good as OEM&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;shocking!&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Removing ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these backplates are getting as thin as paper by now, others will be relatively easy to remove. So Rbest read the whole text before starting the job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Strip the shoes and springs off; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Try to remove the handbrake cable from its steel sleeve in the backplate. These normally seize badly, so a brush up, some pen oil and then gripping on the larger diameter plastic sleeve at the back with a pair of large wide jawed pliers or grips , start to twist it back and forth until you can also start pulling it out a bit. Either remove completely if possible or then leave it until the backplate is right off. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clamp the brake hose carefully, rremove the hydralic connection to the slave cylinder, undo the single bolt holding it on and remove it, by scraping off any rust around its edge and twisting if necessary to free it up; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heavily wire brush and pen oil the area behind the plate where the two M10 bolts and the central dowel are located (at the bottom pivot). Undo the two 17mm bolts at the bottom; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the edge of the large central hole where it fits over the bearing housing and the behind it where it sits against the bearing housing mating face... to how badly it is rusted on; scrape around the edges front and backwith the flat of a screwdriver to remove any deep rust scale before trying to remove the whole backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternately, try tapping the sides from behind, adjacent to the bearing housing and then with a fairly stout punch, start to drive the dowel pin between the bolt-holes from the back, under the housing; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Repeat the above loosening procedure, looking for where it has freed up and come away from the housing and where it hasn&#039;t. You may have to strike the dowel fair and square the first time to initially loosen it, &#039;&#039;&#039;but don&#039;t keep driving this until the backplate has broken its seal and come away&#039;&#039;&#039;. Keep pulling gently and tapping from behind at the top; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remove the handbrake cable sleeve from the backplate uisng a twisting action. the palstic sleeve often takes quite a bit of punishment but can be fettled up before refitting the backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the backplate for damage and decide if good, bad or ugly... The first two can be repaired, and refurbed. if it is holed here and there but substantially sound, a MIG welder can fill them in and sometimes rebuild small sections with beads of weld or in extremis, weld steel patches in, but not in keyareas that mate with shoes, springs or the bearing housing at the back.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Welded_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refurbing (and MIG welding up holes)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a bad one I MIG&#039;d up in a lot of places, the whole thing around the boss was full of pinholes, and I strengthened it across the top spring hanger, and around the edges here and there where I thought it&#039;s stiffness had been compromised. MIG on low or even lowest setting and build a bead bit by bit around the holes, before then filling them in. Grind off carefully where necessary (I used a Rotozip with see-thru flexdisc). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that the braking loads don&#039;t go through the backplate, they&#039;re taken straight out by the wheel bearing hub casting at the top cylinder and bottom pivots. Thus the backplate only really acts in a supporting and positioning role. As long as it&#039;s still square and true, not too flexible, and basically waterproof from behind (plug the adjuster holes with bungs), then it should do the job OK. The flat mating face of the bearing housing supports it quite well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A lot of the welding up was to fill holes and not for strength, but where it mates to the casting face, any welds need to be ground reasonably flush, or don&#039;t even bother welding them up. IMO it could even be stiffened up sufficiently by pop-rivetting nicely made plates on the back of it if necessary and care taken not to foul the housing or any moving parts, but doubt MOT testers would agree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are my efforts, after a quick few thin coats of Weld-thru zinc primer. About an hour or so &#039;chipping&#039; heavy rust flakes off, using a bearing scraper in those deep rim pressings [[General Engineering Scrapers]], just perfict! Clamp it down to a bench first and wear gogs...&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Refurbed_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite a bit of MIGing, but the outer rims weren&#039;t &#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039; rusted through, if they&#039;re really bad you&#039;d need to be quite devoted to repair the whole thing, and better than me at welding too. Brazing would be a good option here, if you have gas. (MOT testers would fail a backplate with the rims rusted through, as not only do they provide a lot of stiffness, but prevent water ingress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clean threads and free-up push/adjusting rod (auto adjuster rod/star adjuster), to give a freely spinning ratchet wheel and then fill tube with PH grease and lightly lubricate threads. NB. These threads are handed, the right-hand-side having a left-hand thread. {Copper-slip is often used as a substitute for Castrol PH lime-based grease}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Push_adjusting_rod.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brakes Rear brake servicing| Rear brake servicing; Goto 3rd section - &#039;&#039;Re-fitting those shoes and springs&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; The rear brakes on the T25 are self-adjusting single-leading shoe drum brakes.&lt;br /&gt;
 The backplates are originally quite thick galvanised steel pressings (handed L/R). &lt;br /&gt;
 After 15 ~ 20 years they can rust through in places or rust-weld themselves to the bearing housing on which they are mounted &lt;br /&gt;
 This entry provides information, tips and techniques to help remove, refurb or replace them with new ones.&lt;br /&gt;
 Syncros are identical to 2WDs and can deteriorate even faster of course &lt;br /&gt;
 N.B. The front disc splash plates are of similar construction and can rust in much the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==brickwerks kit==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Some Fitting notes by Hacksawbob&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brickwerks supply a &amp;quot;Backplate kit&amp;quot; This includes the backplates, drums, shoes, dowels, handbrake cables, lower mounting pivot points, lower locating pivots, brake cylinders all in the region of £300 It also includes the springs cups and pins that are missing from budget offerings from other suppliers [http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/t3-parts/t3-brake-parts/t3-rear-brake-kit-complete.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s what you need to know. The dowels don&#039;t come fitted. You will need to hammer them in or get them pressed in. It is awkward on a press without the right set up. The dowels have a chamfered end and a rounded end, general consensus is that it doesn&#039;t matter which way around they go. They should be flush on the inside of the lower pivot block though. It may be easier to fit the chamfered side into the backplate especially if you are hammering them in to get them straight.  The kit doesn&#039;t come with the lower mounting M10X20mm bolts (X2 each side) , so you can reuse your own. If you are buying new you may need to source them from a specialist as they need to be 10.9 tensile strength or above. I fitted mine with 12.9 tensile strength hex cap socketed 30mm bolts and added some nuts the other side as belt and braces (also to keep the bolts clean the other side) however the bolts weren&#039;t long enough for the nylock bolts to engage so maybe 40mm might be better? If you decide to paint your back plates it may be an idea to mask off the dowel mounting poit and the handbrake cable holes as these are very tight fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;other items you might need&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The kit doesn&#039;t come with hub nuts and split pins. If you are going to do this right (and after spending North of £300 you are the sort of person that likes to do it right!) The hub nut is a use once item, although people do re-use while you are ordering your brake parts you make think about replacing the hub nuts and slit pins for new. If you are fitting this kit you &#039;&#039;&#039;WILL&#039;&#039;&#039; need to remove the hub nut. you will need a 46mm socket and a big breaker bar, or a 46mm smackable hub nut remover by EMPI [https://www.google.co.uk/#q=46mm+hub+nut+remover] about £11 from just kampers. These nuts are supposed to be done up to 500NM, a torque wrench for this would cost upwards of £300 so the smackable job works out cheap unless you can rent one! If you mark the hub nut and hub before you remove it, then count the number of turns before it comes free you will have a good idea of how much to put it on, so long as when you remove the wheel retaining part of the hub with the wheel bolts on it you don&#039;t move the wheel thereby changing the position of the starting thread (like I did!)Jed has a video on this here http://campervanculture.com/2011/07/jed-replaces-the-rear-wheel-bearing-on-his-t25-vanagon-syncro/ be very careful with the brake lines using this method, it is very easy to introduce kinks into the brake lines if you aren&#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Part Nos ==&lt;br /&gt;
To start with, these are the VW Part Nos:&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 425D backplate - Left (1) &lt;br /&gt;
251 609 426D backplate - Right (1) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You may also need the lower pivots (Mounting Insert for brake shoe - 4 off) - if you can&#039;t free up and remove them from the old backplates &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 209 (4) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and the plugs to bung the adjuster hole up are:- &lt;br /&gt;
113 609 163&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Beaker says:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
As of 5th April, 2006 the price was:&lt;br /&gt;
£51.03 plus vat from VW each, inserts(plugs) £3.67+ each &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Baxter:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, for the price it&#039;s now worth arsing about with second hand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HM:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, at £10/hour, Simon&#039;s right, must have spent 3-4 hours at least refurbing just one, but its back on and looks good, but still not new... depends how much dosh you can spare and how long you can wait to get them (a week minimum usually)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t forget to get a new set of springs and bits and pieces (GSF, about £10) and make a good job refurbing the auto-adjuster bar. Use castrol PH zinc based grease on pivots and rubbing points. GSF do new drums and shoes at a good price if VW scare you off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039; Original VW riveted shoes are much better than the aftermarket bonded-ones. (Highly likely - general opinion is that aftermarket brake parts vary from &#039;&#039;Not as good as OEM&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;shocking!&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Removing ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these backplates are getting as thin as paper by now, others will be relatively easy to remove. So Rbest read the whole text before starting the job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Strip the shoes and springs off; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Try to remove the handbrake cable from its steel sleeve in the backplate. These normally seize badly, so a brush up, some pen oil and then gripping on the larger diameter plastic sleeve at the back with a pair of large wide jawed pliers or grips , start to twist it back and forth until you can also start pulling it out a bit. Either remove completely if possible or then leave it until the backplate is right off. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clamp the brake hose carefully, rremove the hydralic connection to the slave cylinder, undo the single bolt holding it on and remove it, by scraping off any rust around its edge and twisting if necessary to free it up; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heavily wire brush and pen oil the area behind the plate where the two M10 bolts and the central dowel are located (at the bottom pivot). Undo the two 17mm bolts at the bottom; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the edge of the large central hole where it fits over the bearing housing and the behind it where it sits against the bearing housing mating face... to how badly it is rusted on; scrape around the edges front and backwith the flat of a screwdriver to remove any deep rust scale before trying to remove the whole backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternately, try tapping the sides from behind, adjacent to the bearing housing and then with a fairly stout punch, start to drive the dowel pin between the bolt-holes from the back, under the housing; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Repeat the above loosening procedure, looking for where it has freed up and come away from the housing and where it hasn&#039;t. You may have to strike the dowel fair and square the first time to initially loosen it, &#039;&#039;&#039;but don&#039;t keep driving this until the backplate has broken its seal and come away&#039;&#039;&#039;. Keep pulling gently and tapping from behind at the top; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remove the handbrake cable sleeve from the backplate uisng a twisting action. the palstic sleeve often takes quite a bit of punishment but can be fettled up before refitting the backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the backplate for damage and decide if good, bad or ugly... The first two can be repaired, and refurbed. if it is holed here and there but substantially sound, a MIG welder can fill them in and sometimes rebuild small sections with beads of weld or in extremis, weld steel patches in, but not in keyareas that mate with shoes, springs or the bearing housing at the back.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Welded_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refurbing (and MIG welding up holes)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a bad one I MIG&#039;d up in a lot of places, the whole thing around the boss was full of pinholes, and I strengthened it across the top spring hanger, and around the edges here and there where I thought it&#039;s stiffness had been compromised. MIG on low or even lowest setting and build a bead bit by bit around the holes, before then filling them in. Grind off carefully where necessary (I used a Rotozip with see-thru flexdisc). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that the braking loads don&#039;t go through the backplate, they&#039;re taken straight out by the wheel bearing hub casting at the top cylinder and bottom pivots. Thus the backplate only really acts in a supporting and positioning role. As long as it&#039;s still square and true, not too flexible, and basically waterproof from behind (plug the adjuster holes with bungs), then it should do the job OK. The flat mating face of the bearing housing supports it quite well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A lot of the welding up was to fill holes and not for strength, but where it mates to the casting face, any welds need to be ground reasonably flush, or don&#039;t even bother welding them up. IMO it could even be stiffened up sufficiently by pop-rivetting nicely made plates on the back of it if necessary and care taken not to foul the housing or any moving parts, but doubt MOT testers would agree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are my efforts, after a quick few thin coats of Weld-thru zinc primer. About an hour or so &#039;chipping&#039; heavy rust flakes off, using a bearing scraper in those deep rim pressings [[General Engineering Scrapers]], just perfict! Clamp it down to a bench first and wear gogs...&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Refurbed_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite a bit of MIGing, but the outer rims weren&#039;t &#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039; rusted through, if they&#039;re really bad you&#039;d need to be quite devoted to repair the whole thing, and better than me at welding too. Brazing would be a good option here, if you have gas. (MOT testers would fail a backplate with the rims rusted through, as not only do they provide a lot of stiffness, but prevent water ingress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clean threads and free-up push/adjusting rod (auto adjuster rod/star adjuster), to give a freely spinning ratchet wheel and then fill tube with PH grease and lightly lubricate threads. NB. These threads are handed, the right-hand-side having a left-hand thread. {Copper-slip is often used as a substitute for Castrol PH lime-based grease}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Push_adjusting_rod.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brakes Rear brake servicing| Rear brake servicing; Goto 3rd section - &#039;&#039;Re-fitting those shoes and springs&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; The rear brakes on the T25 are self-adjusting single-leading shoe drum brakes.&lt;br /&gt;
 The backplates are originally quite thick galvanised steel pressings (handed L/R). &lt;br /&gt;
 After 15 ~ 20 years they can rust through in places or rust-weld themselves to the bearing housing on which they are mounted &lt;br /&gt;
 This entry provides information, tips and techniques to help remove, refurb or replace them with new ones.&lt;br /&gt;
 Syncros are identical to 2WDs and can deteriorate even faster of course &lt;br /&gt;
 N.B. The front disc splash plates are of similar construction and can rust in much the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==brickwerks kit==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Some Fitting notes by Hacksawbob&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Brickwerks supply a &amp;quot;Backplate kit&amp;quot; This includes the backplates, drums, shoes, dowels, handbrake cables, lower mounting pivot points, lower locating pivots, brake cylinders all in the region of £300 It also includes the springs cups and pins that are missing from budget offerings from other suppliers [http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php/t3-parts/t3-brake-parts/t3-rear-brake-kit-complete.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s what you need to know. The dowels don&#039;t come fitted. You will need to hammer them in or get them pressed in. It is awkward on a press without the right set up. The dowels have a chamfered end and a rounded end, general consensus is that it doesn&#039;t matter which way around they go. They should be flush on the inside of the lower pivot block though. It may be easier to fit the chamfered side into the backplate especially if you are hammering them in to get them straight.  The kit doesn&#039;t come with the lower mounting M10X20mm bolts (X2 each side) , so you can reuse your own. If you are buying new you may need to source them from a specialist as they need to be 10.9 tensile strength or above. I fitted mine with 12.9 tensile strength hex cap socketed 30mm bolts and added some nuts the other side as belt and braces (also to keep the bolts clean the other side) however the bolts weren&#039;t long enough for the nylock bolts to engage so maybe 40mm might be better? If you decide to paint your back plates it may be an idea to mask off the dowel mounting poit and the handbrake cable holes as these are very tight fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;other items you might need&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The kit doesn&#039;t come with hub nuts and split pins. If you are going to do this right (and after spending North of £300 you are the sort of person that likes to do it right!) The hub nut is a use once item, although people do re-use while you are ordering your brake parts you make think about replacing the hub nuts and slit pins for new. If you are fitting this kit you &#039;&#039;&#039;WILL&#039;&#039;&#039; need to remove the hub nut. you will need a 46mm socket and a big breaker bar, or a 46mm smackable hub nut remover by EMPI [https://www.google.co.uk/#q=46mm+hub+nut+remover] about £11 from just kampers. These nuts are supposed to be done up to 500NM, a torque wrench for this would cost upwards of £300 so the smackable job works out cheap unless you can rent one! If you mark the hub nut and hub before you remove it, then count the number of turns before it comes free you will have a good idea of how much to put it on, so long as when you remove the wheel retaining part of the hub with the wheel bolts on it you don&#039;t move the wheel thereby changing the position of the starting thread (like I did!)Jed has a video on this here http://campervanculture.com/2011/07/jed-replaces-the-rear-wheel-bearing-on-his-t25-vanagon-syncro/ be very careful with the brake lines using this method, it is very easy to introduce kinks into the brake lines if you aren&#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Part Nos ==&lt;br /&gt;
To start with, these are the VW Part Nos:&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 425D backplate - Left (1) &lt;br /&gt;
251 609 426D backplate - Right (1) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You may also need the lower pivots (Mounting Insert for brake shoe - 4 off) - if you can&#039;t free up and remove them from the old backplates &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
251 609 209 (4) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and the plugs to bung the adjuster hole up are:- &lt;br /&gt;
113 609 163&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Beaker says:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
As of 5th April, 2006 the price was:&lt;br /&gt;
£51.03 plus vat from VW each, inserts(plugs) £3.67+ each &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Simon Baxter:&#039;&#039;&#039; Well, for the price it&#039;s now worth arsing about with second hand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HM:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes, at £10/hour, Simon&#039;s right, must have spent 3-4 hours at least refurbing just one, but its back on and looks good, but still not new... depends how much dosh you can spare and how long you can wait to get them (a week minimum usually)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t forget to get a new set of springs and bits and pieces (GSF, about £10) and make a good job refurbing the auto-adjuster bar. Use castrol PH zinc based grease on pivots and rubbing points. GSF do new drums and shoes at a good price if VW scare you off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AndySimpson:&#039;&#039;&#039; Original VW riveted shoes are much better than the aftermarket bonded-ones. (Highly likely - general opinion is that aftermarket brake parts vary from &#039;&#039;Not as good as OEM&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;shocking!&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Removing ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these backplates are getting as thin as paper by now, others will be relatively easy to remove. So Rbest read the whole text before starting the job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Strip the shoes and springs off; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Try to remove the handbrake cable from its steel sleeve in the backplate. These normally seize badly, so a brush up, some pen oil and then gripping on the larger diameter plastic sleeve at the back with a pair of large wide jawed pliers or grips , start to twist it back and forth until you can also start pulling it out a bit. Either remove completely if possible or then leave it until the backplate is right off. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clamp the brake hose carefully, rremove the hydralic connection to the slave cylinder, undo the single bolt holding it on and remove it, by scraping off any rust around its edge and twisting if necessary to free it up; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heavily wire brush and pen oil the area behind the plate where the two M10 bolts and the central dowel are located (at the bottom pivot). Undo the two 17mm bolts at the bottom; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the edge of the large central hole where it fits over the bearing housing and the behind it where it sits against the bearing housing mating face... to how badly it is rusted on; scrape around the edges front and backwith the flat of a screwdriver to remove any deep rust scale before trying to remove the whole backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternately, try tapping the sides from behind, adjacent to the bearing housing and then with a fairly stout punch, start to drive the dowel pin between the bolt-holes from the back, under the housing; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Repeat the above loosening procedure, looking for where it has freed up and come away from the housing and where it hasn&#039;t. You may have to strike the dowel fair and square the first time to initially loosen it, &#039;&#039;&#039;but don&#039;t keep driving this until the backplate has broken its seal and come away&#039;&#039;&#039;. Keep pulling gently and tapping from behind at the top; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remove the handbrake cable sleeve from the backplate uisng a twisting action. the palstic sleeve often takes quite a bit of punishment but can be fettled up before refitting the backplate; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inspect the backplate for damage and decide if good, bad or ugly... The first two can be repaired, and refurbed. if it is holed here and there but substantially sound, a MIG welder can fill them in and sometimes rebuild small sections with beads of weld or in extremis, weld steel patches in, but not in keyareas that mate with shoes, springs or the bearing housing at the back.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Welded.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refurbing (and MIG welding up holes)==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s a bad one I MIG&#039;d up in a lot of places, the whole thing around the boss was full of pinholes, and I strengthened it across the top spring hanger, and around the edges here and there where I thought it&#039;s stiffness had been compromised. MIG on low or even lowest setting and build a bead bit by bit around the holes, before then filling them in. Grind off carefully where necessary (I used a Rotozip with see-thru flexdisc). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Remember that the braking loads don&#039;t go through the backplate, they&#039;re taken straight out by the wheel bearing hub casting at the top cylinder and bottom pivots. Thus the backplate only really acts in a supporting and positioning role. As long as it&#039;s still square and true, not too flexible, and basically waterproof from behind (plug the adjuster holes with bungs), then it should do the job OK. The flat mating face of the bearing housing supports it quite well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A lot of the welding up was to fill holes and not for strength, but where it mates to the casting face, any welds need to be ground reasonably flush, or don&#039;t even bother welding them up. IMO it could even be stiffened up sufficiently by pop-rivetting nicely made plates on the back of it if necessary and care taken not to foul the housing or any moving parts, but doubt MOT testers would agree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are my efforts, after a quick few thin coats of Weld-thru zinc primer. About an hour or so &#039;chipping&#039; heavy rust flakes off, using a bearing scraper in those deep rim pressings [[General Engineering Scrapers]], just perfict! Clamp it down to a bench first and wear gogs...&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Backplate_Refurbed_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quite a bit of MIGing, but the outer rims weren&#039;t &#039;&#039;totally&#039;&#039; rusted through, if they&#039;re really bad you&#039;d need to be quite devoted to repair the whole thing, and better than me at welding too. Brazing would be a good option here, if you have gas. (MOT testers would fail a backplate with the rims rusted through, as not only do they provide a lot of stiffness, but prevent water ingress.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clean threads and free-up push/adjusting rod (auto adjuster rod/star adjuster), to give a freely spinning ratchet wheel and then fill tube with PH grease and lightly lubricate threads. NB. These threads are handed, the right-hand-side having a left-hand thread. {Copper-slip is often used as a substitute for Castrol PH lime-based grease}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Push_adjusting_rod.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Refitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brakes Rear brake servicing| Rear brake servicing; Goto 3rd section - &#039;&#039;Re-fitting those shoes and springs&#039;&#039;]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T14:31:44Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wiki explained,&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[80-90 wiki sandbox|If you want to have a test your wiki editing skills you can do that here]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wiki is the Hawian word for quick. Have you ever visited a website after reading what it had to say and thought &amp;quot;yes, but you should have mentioned this aswell&amp;quot;, Well a WIKI page gives you an oportunity to do this. At the top of every page and section it says edit in blue, click this and you have the ability to add text sound and pictures to the page. Generally editing someone elses edit is not considered good Wiki manners, unless you see something obvious like grammer or spelling, but generally you want to add to rather than take away from the Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
Formatting of webpages is done with HTML, basically this determines the size and position of text and images. with WIKI a dfferent method for formatting what follows are some of the more common ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Formatting Text&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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generally speaking after you click edit you can just type away, if you need to make something bold put three &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;single quotes around it like this&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and to break up sections add four ---- minus signs on their own, if you dont put a line of space between text it will run on continuously.&lt;br /&gt;
So this sentance would follows directly after the full stop above even though I pressed return once.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But this wouldn&#039;t as I pressed return twice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you cant be arsed and just want  something up there as a one off mail your contribution to me and I will put it up for you, Its best if you send it as plain text either in an email or as a text file. If you have photos to add reduce to 640X480 if you can and RENAME them to something more descriptive like Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg dont use spaces or underscores, then just put the name of the file in the bit of the text file where you want the image to appear with a line of space above and below, preferably number the photos in the order you want them to appear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Inserting an image on the WIKI&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg|thumb|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
picture on the left was added by typing &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Image:Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg|thumb|left]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have uploaded a picture to the WIKI using the &amp;quot;upload file&amp;quot; link on the left hand side of every page (under the search box), given it a descriptive name i.e. Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg (underscores and spaces dont work well) then referenced it in my wiki page. I have added the &amp;quot;|thumb|left&amp;quot; to position it on the page and make it a thumbnail, although this is optional. The vertical lines you see in this link are acheived by pressing SHIFT and \ (bottom left on your keyboard). The 2 square brackets are to show that you are referencing something on the WIKI itself rather than on the internet in general which is covered in the next section.&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;br /&gt;
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.&lt;br /&gt;
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----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Making a link to another URL (webpage)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.vwpix.org/eng/ | http://vwpix.org almost every brochure and manual]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
has been created in edit mode as&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[http://vwpix.org/eng/ | http://vwpix.org almost every brochure and manual] &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It seems best to leave a space before and after the | for the links to work properly, although you will end up with a | at the bgining of your link it seems necessary for it to work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>What is wiki</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T14:27:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wiki explained,&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[80-90 wiki sandbox|If you want to have a test your wiki editing skills you can do that here]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wiki is the Hawian word for quick. Have you ever visited a website after reading what it had to say and thought &amp;quot;yes, but you should have mentioned this aswell&amp;quot;, Well a WIKI page gives you an oportunity to do this. At the top of every page and section it says edit in blue, click this and you have the ability to add text sound and pictures to the page. Generally editing someone elses edit is not considered good Wiki manners, unless you see something obvious like grammer or spelling, but generally you want to add to rather than take away from the Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
Formatting of webpages is done with HTML, basically this determines the size and position of text and images. with WIKI a dfferent method for formatting what follows are some of the more common ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Formatting Text&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
generally speaking after you click edit you can just type away, if you need to make something bold put three &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;single quotes around it like this&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and to break up sections add four ---- minus signs on their own, if you dont put a line of space between text it will run on continuously.&lt;br /&gt;
So this sentance would follows directly after the full stop above even though I pressed return once.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But this wouldn&#039;t as I pressed return twice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you cant be arsed and just want  something up there as a one off mail your contribution to me and I will put it up for you, Its best if you send it as plain text either in an email or as a text file. If you have photos to add reduce to 640X480 if you can and RENAME them to something more descriptive like Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg dont use spaces or underscores, then just put the name of the file in the bit of the text file where you want the image to appear with a line of space above and below, preferably number the photos in the order you want them to appear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Inserting an image on the WIKI&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg|thumb|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
picture on the left was added by typing &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Image:Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg|thumb|left]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have uploaded a picture to the WIKI using the &amp;quot;upload file&amp;quot; link on the left hand side of every page (under the search box), given it a descriptive name i.e. Camper-interior-Westy-joker1.jpg (underscores and spaces dont work well) then referenced it in my wiki page. I have added the &amp;quot;|thumb|left&amp;quot; to position it on the page and make it a thumbnail, although this is optional. The vertical lines you see in this link are acheived by pressing SHIFT and \ (bottom left on your keyboard). The 2 square brackets are to show that you are referencing something on the WIKI itself rather than on the internet in general which is covered in the next section.&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Making a link to another URL (webpage)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.vwpix.org/eng/ | http://vwpix.terlinden.com almost every brochure and manual]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
has been created in edit mode as&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[http://vwpix.terlinden.com/index_en.htm | http://vwpix.terlinden.com almost every brocher and manual] &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It seems best to leave a space before and after the | for the links to work properly, although you will end up with a | at the bgining of your link it seems necessary for it to work.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Diesel Engines Inj. pumps - AAZ pump adjustments</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T13:11:56Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Inj. pumps vary a lot, even on nominally the same engines&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1.9TD AAZs (usually from Passats) are excellent substitutes for the 1.6 JX TD in many T25s. There are a few gotchas, but here is a picture of a manually adjustable pump, with some notes for increasing fuelling...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_Injection_Pump_new.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) The slotted screw that seems to give it real go and a bit of smoke (but raises the idle) 1/4 to 1 turn in (locknut is 13mm) &lt;br /&gt;
Main fulelling screw&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) &amp;amp; 3) Don&#039;t touch, provides reference face for dial-gauge timing adjustments&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4)Solenoid for cold start advance (pulls a cable along engine side of pump which works a lever same side, small travel with adj. stop) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5) Lever boost enrichment (used to have something like this active from cab, when intercooler fitted, for towing caravan, kick-down) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
?) Cover for blamked LDA vent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the top of the LDA diaphragm unit, selaed under a brass cover, is the boost enrichment spring pretension screw (setting the pressure at which boost enrichment starts?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Main fuelling screw...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Disel_Pump_Back_01.jpg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Alternative engine 1.9TD</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T12:59:37Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;== Engine Options ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Donors and Parts Required ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;GaryD:&#039;&#039;&#039; Try looking at this link for some info given to me by and by me as I did my AAZ conversion earlier this year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://forum.80-90.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17057&amp;amp;postdays=0&amp;amp;postorder=asc&amp;amp;highlight=aaz&amp;amp;start=0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and here is a list of bits I bought:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new JX parts: Number Price&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
clutch assembly 068 298 141 DX (110) £63.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft spigot bearing 111 105 313 A £5.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump gasket 044 103 609 D (18.56) £7.01&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil filler pipe gasket 068 115 315 A £1.22&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump drain plug seal washer N013 849 2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternator / water pump belt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water housing ‘O’ ring 2no. 052 121 091 A £1.00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust gasket (turbo to pipe) 893 253 115 £3.73&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust manifold to head gaskets. 4no 028 129 589 B £2.25 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields – 2 parts 068 253 283 &amp;amp; 068 253 283 A £13.76 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new AAZ parts (engine no – AAZ 504 742):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt &amp;amp; adjuster 028 109 119 P &amp;amp; 068 109 2430F £20.00 &amp;amp; £30.76&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil cooler ‘O’ ring seal 028 117 070 £3.77&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil Filter 068 115 561 B £6.59&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seals (Fr 068 103 085 E) &amp;amp; (R 068 103 171 F) £4.17 &amp;amp; £8.45&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seal gaskets Fr 026 103 161 B &amp;amp; R 026 103 181 B £1.46 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft pulley end bolt (M14 x 1.5 x 47) N905 771 01 £1.37&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Flywheel bolts 6no N902 061 03 £1.84 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold gasket 028 129 717 D £4.19&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold elbow gasket 028 129 754 A £3.25&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water hose – pump to cylinder head (AAZ) 028 121 053 Q (19.85)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coolant Thermostat ‘O’ ring seal 038 121 119 B £1.48&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt cover 028 109 123 E £15.97&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4.5 litre oil&lt;br /&gt;
Longer turbo oil return pipe to sump (JX +1”)&lt;br /&gt;
Bung to back of block (end of AAZ oil return pipe?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prices in brackets are VW with aftermarket prices following.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Garyd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Exhaust manifold parts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The manifold studs, nuts and extra thick washers are quite importannt to be in good nick and done up well. Being a TD, manifold moves about a lot as it gets &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; hot, so should have good flat mating faces to the head and new gaskets. They can be trouble free for quite along time if everything is right... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exh. Manifold to head &lt;br /&gt;
Studs N901 889 02 (M8x35) (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Washers (thick) N900 955 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Nuts (flanged self-locking) N902 002 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Turbo to Manifold &lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 B (M10 x 46) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 C (M10 x 29) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Original trubo fit is without gasket, good true mating faces&lt;br /&gt;
Thin s/s gasket can be obtained from turbo refurbers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JX turbo on a JX manifold on a 1.9TD block requires the turbo-to-block support bracket extending about an inch and a quarter &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also see other turbo articles in Wiki elsewhere&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HarryMann&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other considerations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clutch... Some find the std JX 215mm clutch usually slips with a good AAZ, others find it doesn&#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are various upgrades but usually require re-machined flywheel from a different vehicle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel Uprated Clutch]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel clutch change]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Turbos ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re-indexing, see [[Diesel Engines Turbo (Re-Indexing)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inlet Manifold ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The AAZ inlet ports are &#039;D&#039; shaped, the JX are oval, which match at the top not at the bottom. You could use the JX manifold &#039;as is&#039; and accept some reduction in cylinder filling. The is scarcely enough material to open the ports out, as this becomes too thin to provide a wide enough mating face for the gasket. Opening the JX manifold out fully requires building up the edges to support the gasket and the resurfacing with a surface plate (See [[Techniques - Cleaning/Trueing mating faces|Cleaning/Trueing mating faces]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JX_InletMan-ModForAAZ_01.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using the AAZ manifold is probably the best option, but this has the inlet stub on the top, not the outside face. A different inlet hose and general arrangement is then needed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are going to intercool then this (original AAZ)is probably the best inlet manifold to use, with the stub turned towards the rear for clearance, using a variety of silicon hoses and joins. Note well the correct stub port diameter, which has a habit of falling between common hose sizes. So at least acquire/keep the original AAZ inlet hose, to use or as a guide.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In theory it would be possible to adapt the AAZ manifold to have a side mounted inlet stub, as the casting is nominally the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Exhaust Manifold/Pipe/Silencer==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Turbo - Manifolds|Manifolds/Heat Shields]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exahaust pipe&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst the std JX pipe (2.25&amp;quot;) is sufficient, a 2.5&amp;quot; system throughout with less resistive silencer should be of benefit if increasing the boost and fuelling (to keep exhaust manifold pressures down). (Generally reckoned to produce more torque, example of custom system to follow)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Silencer, custom heat shield&lt;br /&gt;
[[Parts - Silencer custom heat-shield|Silencer - custom heat-shield]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oil Quantity/Dipstick Mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
 Oil quantity on all Diesel kit mounted (52 degree angle) engines can be critical, too much being the real problem &lt;br /&gt;
 4.5 litres is about max. (without allowance for an additional oil cooler, a good addition to these installations) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Also note that with some diesel dipsticks the correct oil level won&#039;t even be on the bottom of the stick, so shortening the dipstick &#039;&#039;tube&#039;&#039; is the normal remedy (for the AAZ anyway). About an inch and a quarter reduction from memory, or where there&#039;s a natural change in section, so that the yellow plastic scroll-clip can be re-fitted, finishing it all nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_01_new.JPG]] [[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_02_new.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_03_new.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Correct oil level is then about minimum on stick, but calibrate it anyway, with 4.5 litres + allowance for oil cooler if fitted (another 0.5 ~ 0.75 litres depending on cooler size and pipe run)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Injection pump mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a couple of mods that tend to go alongside raising boost pressure to increase performance. Whilst simply increasing fuelling on the main fuelling screw achieves a result, this is a bit crude and does not balance the additional fuel across the range with boost levels (and can easily give a high idle difficult to adjust down). Adjusting the LDA pin or changing it for a re-shaped one can be done relatively easily in most cases. IF you require more revs, to get above the 4,200~4500 governor limit, this mod can also be done, though is not for the feint hearted!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3241 VW GTD forum&#039;s Governor Mod FAQ]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Engine Options ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Donors and Parts Required ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;GaryD:&#039;&#039;&#039; Try looking at this link for some info given to me by and by me as I did my AAZ conversion earlier this year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://forum.80-90.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17057&amp;amp;postdays=0&amp;amp;postorder=asc&amp;amp;highlight=aaz&amp;amp;start=0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and here is a list of bits I bought:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new JX parts: Number Price&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
clutch assembly 068 298 141 DX (110) £63.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft spigot bearing 111 105 313 A £5.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump gasket 044 103 609 D (18.56) £7.01&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil filler pipe gasket 068 115 315 A £1.22&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump drain plug seal washer N013 849 2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternator / water pump belt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water housing ‘O’ ring 2no. 052 121 091 A £1.00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust gasket (turbo to pipe) 893 253 115 £3.73&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust manifold to head gaskets. 4no 028 129 589 B £2.25 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields – 2 parts 068 253 283 &amp;amp; 068 253 283 A £13.76 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new AAZ parts (engine no – AAZ 504 742):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt &amp;amp; adjuster 028 109 119 P &amp;amp; 068 109 2430F £20.00 &amp;amp; £30.76&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil cooler ‘O’ ring seal 028 117 070 £3.77&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil Filter 068 115 561 B £6.59&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seals (Fr 068 103 085 E) &amp;amp; (R 068 103 171 F) £4.17 &amp;amp; £8.45&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seal gaskets Fr 026 103 161 B &amp;amp; R 026 103 181 B £1.46 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft pulley end bolt (M14 x 1.5 x 47) N905 771 01 £1.37&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Flywheel bolts 6no N902 061 03 £1.84 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold gasket 028 129 717 D £4.19&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold elbow gasket 028 129 754 A £3.25&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water hose – pump to cylinder head (AAZ) 028 121 053 Q (19.85)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coolant Thermostat ‘O’ ring seal 038 121 119 B £1.48&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt cover 028 109 123 E £15.97&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4.5 litre oil&lt;br /&gt;
Longer turbo oil return pipe to sump (JX +1”)&lt;br /&gt;
Bung to back of block (end of AAZ oil return pipe?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prices in brackets are VW with aftermarket prices following.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Garyd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Exhaust manifold parts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The manifold studs, nuts and extra thick washers are quite importannt to be in good nick and done up well. Being a TD, manifold moves about a lot as it gets &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; hot, so should have good flat mating faces to the head and new gaskets. They can be trouble free for quite along time if everything is right... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exh. Manifold to head &lt;br /&gt;
Studs N901 889 02 (M8x35) (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Washers (thick) N900 955 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Nuts (flanged self-locking) N902 002 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Turbo to Manifold &lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 B (M10 x 46) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 C (M10 x 29) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Original trubo fit is without gasket, good true mating faces&lt;br /&gt;
Thin s/s gasket can be obtained from turbo refurbers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JX turbo on a JX manifold on a 1.9TD block requires the turbo-to-block support bracket extending about an inch and a quarter &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also see other turbo articles in Wiki elsewhere&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HarryMann&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other considerations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clutch... Some find the std JX 215mm clutch usually slips with a good AAZ, others find it doesn&#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are various upgrades but usually require re-machined flywheel from a different vehicle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel Uprated Clutch]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel clutch change]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Turbos ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re-indexing, see [[Diesel Engines Turbo (Re-Indexing)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inlet Manifold ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The AAZ inlet ports are &#039;D&#039; shaped, the JX are oval, which match at the top not at the bottom. You could use the JX manifold &#039;as is&#039; and accept some reduction in cylinder filling. The is scarcely enough material to open the ports out, as this becomes too thin to provide a wide enough mating face for the gasket. Opening the JX manifold out fully requires building up the edges to support the gasket and the resurfacing with a surface plate (See [[Techniques - Cleaning/Trueing mating faces|Cleaning/Trueing mating faces]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JX_InletMan-ModForAAZ_01.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using the AAZ manifold is probably the best option, but this has the inlet stub on the top, not the outside face. A different inlet hose and general arrangement is then needed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are going to intercool then this (original AAZ)is probably the best inlet manifold to use, with the stub turned towards the rear for clearance, using a variety of silicon hoses and joins. Note well the correct stub port diameter, which has a habit of falling between common hose sizes. So at least acquire/keep the original AAZ inlet hose, to use or as a guide.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In theory it would be possible to adapt the AAZ manifold to have a side mounted inlet stub, as the casting is nominally the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Exhaust Manifold/Pipe/Silencer==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Turbo - Manifolds|Manifolds/Heat Shields]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exahaust pipe&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst the std JX pipe (2.25&amp;quot;) is sufficient, a 2.5&amp;quot; system throughout with less resistive silencer should be of benefit if increasing the boost and fuelling (to keep exhaust manifold pressures down). (Generally reckoned to produce more torque, example of custom system to follow)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Silencer, custom heat shield&lt;br /&gt;
[[Parts - Silencer custom heat-shield|Silencer - custom heat-shield]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oil Quantity/Dipstick Mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
 Oil quantity on all Diesel kit mounted (52 degree angle) engines can be critical, too much being the real problem &lt;br /&gt;
 4.5 litres is about max. (without allowance for an additional oil cooler, a good addition to these installations) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Also note that with some diesel dipsticks the correct oil level won&#039;t even be on the bottom of the stick, so shortening the dipstick &#039;&#039;tube&#039;&#039; is the normal remedy (for the AAZ anyway). About an inch and a quarter reduction from memory, or where there&#039;s a natural change in section, so that the yellow plastic scroll-clip can be re-fitted, finishing it all nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_01_new.JPG]] [[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_02_new.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_03.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Correct oil level is then about minimum on stick, but calibrate it anyway, with 4.5 litres + allowance for oil cooler if fitted (another 0.5 ~ 0.75 litres depending on cooler size and pipe run)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Injection pump mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a couple of mods that tend to go alongside raising boost pressure to increase performance. Whilst simply increasing fuelling on the main fuelling screw achieves a result, this is a bit crude and does not balance the additional fuel across the range with boost levels (and can easily give a high idle difficult to adjust down). Adjusting the LDA pin or changing it for a re-shaped one can be done relatively easily in most cases. IF you require more revs, to get above the 4,200~4500 governor limit, this mod can also be done, though is not for the feint hearted!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3241 VW GTD forum&#039;s Governor Mod FAQ]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
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		<title>Alternative engine 1.9TD</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Engine Options ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Donors and Parts Required ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;GaryD:&#039;&#039;&#039; Try looking at this link for some info given to me by and by me as I did my AAZ conversion earlier this year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://forum.80-90.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=17057&amp;amp;postdays=0&amp;amp;postorder=asc&amp;amp;highlight=aaz&amp;amp;start=0&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and here is a list of bits I bought:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new JX parts: Number Price&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
clutch assembly 068 298 141 DX (110) £63.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft spigot bearing 111 105 313 A £5.50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump gasket 044 103 609 D (18.56) £7.01&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil filler pipe gasket 068 115 315 A £1.22&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sump drain plug seal washer N013 849 2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternator / water pump belt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water housing ‘O’ ring 2no. 052 121 091 A £1.00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust gasket (turbo to pipe) 893 253 115 £3.73&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exhaust manifold to head gaskets. 4no 028 129 589 B £2.25 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields – 2 parts 068 253 283 &amp;amp; 068 253 283 A £13.76 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fit new AAZ parts (engine no – AAZ 504 742):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt &amp;amp; adjuster 028 109 119 P &amp;amp; 068 109 2430F £20.00 &amp;amp; £30.76&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil cooler ‘O’ ring seal 028 117 070 £3.77&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oil Filter 068 115 561 B £6.59&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seals (Fr 068 103 085 E) &amp;amp; (R 068 103 171 F) £4.17 &amp;amp; £8.45&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft oil seal gaskets Fr 026 103 161 B &amp;amp; R 026 103 181 B £1.46 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Crankshaft pulley end bolt (M14 x 1.5 x 47) N905 771 01 £1.37&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Flywheel bolts 6no N902 061 03 £1.84 each&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold gasket 028 129 717 D £4.19&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inlet manifold elbow gasket 028 129 754 A £3.25&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Water hose – pump to cylinder head (AAZ) 028 121 053 Q (19.85)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coolant Thermostat ‘O’ ring seal 038 121 119 B £1.48&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Timing belt cover 028 109 123 E £15.97&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4.5 litre oil&lt;br /&gt;
Longer turbo oil return pipe to sump (JX +1”)&lt;br /&gt;
Bung to back of block (end of AAZ oil return pipe?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prices in brackets are VW with aftermarket prices following.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this helps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Garyd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Exhaust manifold parts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The manifold studs, nuts and extra thick washers are quite importannt to be in good nick and done up well. Being a TD, manifold moves about a lot as it gets &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; hot, so should have good flat mating faces to the head and new gaskets. They can be trouble free for quite along time if everything is right... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exh. Manifold to head &lt;br /&gt;
Studs N901 889 02 (M8x35) (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Washers (thick) N900 955 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
Nuts (flanged self-locking) N902 002 01 (8)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Turbo to Manifold &lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 B (M10 x 46) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
(12-point HT bolts) 068 145 80 C (M10 x 29) (2) £11 ea + VAT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Original trubo fit is without gasket, good true mating faces&lt;br /&gt;
Thin s/s gasket can be obtained from turbo refurbers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JX turbo on a JX manifold on a 1.9TD block requires the turbo-to-block support bracket extending about an inch and a quarter &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also see other turbo articles in Wiki elsewhere&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HarryMann&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other considerations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clutch... Some find the std JX 215mm clutch usually slips with a good AAZ, others find it doesn&#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are various upgrades but usually require re-machined flywheel from a different vehicle&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel Uprated Clutch]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Gearbox Clutch CVs - Diesel clutch change]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Turbos ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re-indexing, see [[Diesel Engines Turbo (Re-Indexing)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Inlet Manifold ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The AAZ inlet ports are &#039;D&#039; shaped, the JX are oval, which match at the top not at the bottom. You could use the JX manifold &#039;as is&#039; and accept some reduction in cylinder filling. The is scarcely enough material to open the ports out, as this becomes too thin to provide a wide enough mating face for the gasket. Opening the JX manifold out fully requires building up the edges to support the gasket and the resurfacing with a surface plate (See [[Techniques - Cleaning/Trueing mating faces|Cleaning/Trueing mating faces]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JX_InletMan-ModForAAZ_01.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using the AAZ manifold is probably the best option, but this has the inlet stub on the top, not the outside face. A different inlet hose and general arrangement is then needed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are going to intercool then this (original AAZ)is probably the best inlet manifold to use, with the stub turned towards the rear for clearance, using a variety of silicon hoses and joins. Note well the correct stub port diameter, which has a habit of falling between common hose sizes. So at least acquire/keep the original AAZ inlet hose, to use or as a guide.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In theory it would be possible to adapt the AAZ manifold to have a side mounted inlet stub, as the casting is nominally the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Exhaust Manifold/Pipe/Silencer==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heat shields...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Turbo - Manifolds|Manifolds/Heat Shields]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Exahaust pipe&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst the std JX pipe (2.25&amp;quot;) is sufficient, a 2.5&amp;quot; system throughout with less resistive silencer should be of benefit if increasing the boost and fuelling (to keep exhaust manifold pressures down). (Generally reckoned to produce more torque, example of custom system to follow)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Silencer, custom heat shield&lt;br /&gt;
[[Parts - Silencer custom heat-shield|Silencer - custom heat-shield]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oil Quantity/Dipstick Mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
 Oil quantity on all Diesel kit mounted (52 degree angle) engines can be critical, too much being the real problem &lt;br /&gt;
 4.5 litres is about max. (without allowance for an additional oil cooler, a good addition to these installations) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann:&#039;&#039;&#039; Also note that with some diesel dipsticks the correct oil level won&#039;t even be on the bottom of the stick, so shortening the dipstick &#039;&#039;tube&#039;&#039; is the normal remedy (for the AAZ anyway). About an inch and a quarter reduction from memory, or where there&#039;s a natural change in section, so that the yellow plastic scroll-clip can be re-fitted, finishing it all nicely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_01_new.JPG]] [[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_02.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AAZ_DipstickMod_03.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Correct oil level is then about minimum on stick, but calibrate it anyway, with 4.5 litres + allowance for oil cooler if fitted (another 0.5 ~ 0.75 litres depending on cooler size and pipe run)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Injection pump mods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a couple of mods that tend to go alongside raising boost pressure to increase performance. Whilst simply increasing fuelling on the main fuelling screw achieves a result, this is a bit crude and does not balance the additional fuel across the range with boost levels (and can easily give a high idle difficult to adjust down). Adjusting the LDA pin or changing it for a re-shaped one can be done relatively easily in most cases. IF you require more revs, to get above the 4,200~4500 governor limit, this mod can also be done, though is not for the feint hearted!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3241 VW GTD forum&#039;s Governor Mod FAQ]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_drift.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_driftv2.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:IMG 2950.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://club8090.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Syncro_Speedo_diff_drive_gear_replacement&amp;diff=17557</id>
		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T10:41:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_driftv2.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>https://club8090.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Syncro_Speedo_diff_drive_gear_replacement&amp;diff=17555</id>
		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T10:35:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_drift.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://club8090.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Syncro_Speedo_diff_drive_gear_replacement&amp;diff=17554</id>
		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T10:35:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_drift.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File: FullSizeRender.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T10:18:19Z</updated>

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		<id>https://club8090.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Syncro_Speedo_diff_drive_gear_replacement&amp;diff=17549</id>
		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T09:58:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:5mm_drift.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T09:49:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: Jam&lt;/p&gt;
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Jam&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Syncro Speedo diff drive gear replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-03T09:44:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: Image not showing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;HarryMann/Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; When your Syncro&#039;s speedo packs up, many look toward the cable breaking or the speedo head - which is rare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve known the speedo head to start clicking and the needle to jump around before packing in completely, but not the cable to break.&lt;br /&gt;
 &#039;&#039;But by far the most common cause seems to be the plastic drive gear within the front-diff, stripping a couple of teeth&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
- easy to check... if you can get the large alloy nut undone that locates the cable into the diff. Don&#039;t crush this (its ally) unless you have a new cable anyway, so use plenty of brushing and plussing, and as thick a spanner as possible ( [[General Pipe spanners|a hydraulic split-ring spanner might be ideal]]) but I&#039;m not sure of the size. As the front wheels won&#039;t turn together with propshaft on, then simply ensure top-end at speedo is NOT spinning when underway + PLUS + twiddling that end rotates the cable at the diff-end - bingo, say YES to both these and it&#039;s got to be the diff-drive thats broken.&lt;br /&gt;
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The nylon gear inside the diff can be changed without removing or dis-assembling the diff. The plastic gear now only comes from VW as a complete assembly with the shaft, bush and bearings - ready to insert. A 5mm roll-pin, along the top of the  cable attachment boss, aligned fore-aft, secures the gear/shaft/bush assembly into the diff housing. Remove roll-pin; remove old gear assembly (noting that couple of teeth at least are damaged, if not think hard!); replace gear assembly (in exact alignment for pin; replace roll-pin; replace cable (lube inner while have chance); connect back up at speedo, test drive!&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s two problems drifting the pin out. Access - to get a few good strong blows to get it moving; a drift 12~13&amp;quot; long allows a decent swing and strike. My parallel drift set had a 4.8mm drift that just didn&#039;t seem beefy enough to get it moving, and from what Ray says below, don&#039;t try anything much smaller than this else you could be swaging the hollow roll-pin out rather than drifting it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:5mm_drift.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I found 15 minutes on a bench grinder was time well spent, whittling a suitably sized tapered punch down to just under 5mm over the first inch and being as careful as possible to keep it nicely round and concentric. Steel punches and drifts are often made from hex bar, so to get some extra length (bringing the striking face well aft of the diff support cradle), I had just to grind a shade off two opposite angles and then a bit of masking tape to pad it nicely in a 1/2 drive extension gave a tool that transferred the blow well  enough to shift the pin on the second strike of a club-hammer. Must be held as near to dead-in-line as possible - some hoses neeed forcing back out of the way.&lt;br /&gt;
If someone offers to do this for you on a proper cylindrical grinder or in a lathe with a grinder attachment, specify 4.95mm +0.0/-0.05 as the finish size.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ray and Harry exchange some banter on doing this job==&lt;br /&gt;
 Could be heaven (1 hour) or could be hell (a week or more?) - pick through this to make sure its somewhere in between.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ray, I stripped two other diffs I have, both 5.43s and one was appalling, been right mullered around the boss and roll-pin area, so expected a stripped gear to come out... It did. &lt;br /&gt;
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Second one, helluva job driving out roll-pin but gear assembly as good as perfict, so thats the one I put in today. Think they&#039;re about £80, and you can&#039;t buy just the gear anymore, whole assembly only. (over £100 now, check ETKA for the right one!!!, there are many and depends on both diff gearing and number of teeth on pinion).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ray:&#039;&#039;&#039; I had a nightmare driving the pin out. I didn&#039;t realise it was a roll-pin and used a small drift which just drove the dirt out. The assembly would not come out so the bloke next door made up a puller for me which of course just broke the housing. I repaired that with araldite which is still OK after nearly a year and even after having a new VC fitted! The assembly cost £110 from Wayside Parts! Now I know what these roll-pins are like, todays one in the diff-lock came out easily with the correct size drift &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Harry:&#039;&#039;&#039; Ah! Sorry to dredge up a troublesome saga then Ray. &lt;br /&gt;
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I mole-gripped it, got a good purchase, made sure it would rotate both ways a bit, squirted a bit of plus-gas around and then used same grip to lever it outwards... mullered the thread though, but knew the unit was knackered and they come as whole these days. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, 5mm for that one and 3mm for the difflocks. Too small and just tries to expand the roll-pin creating more bedlam. Even a genuine 4.8mm parallel drift wouldn&#039;t budge it, so made one up (above), and then I could finally get a good blow from a club hammer on it... moved immediately then.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that seems to be the trick... dead in line as poss (though not really possible on front diff) and a really hearty blow, anything less leaves it cold.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;SyncroMonVie:&#039;&#039;&#039; I also unbolted and removed the mounting bar that supports the rear of the diff. This allowed me to get a better angle onto the roll pin. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;NB.&#039;&#039;&#039; Might be worth changing diff oil afterwards, though the molten/sheared/ground up plastic teeth seem to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;PS.&#039;&#039;&#039; As with all these jobs, good light and visual scrutiny of the point of impact (at the pin end) helps a lot. As does cleaning up the whole area beforehand... Strike that ally boss instead of the centre of the roll-pin one time too many and you may regret it. If the drift is bouncing around a lot upon impact -that&#039;s a warning sign - maybe not heavyweight enough blow or not directly in line. So a headlight is becoming an important part of the mechanics toolkit for working underneath. Vehicle needs just a gentle front lift for access to do this job, though get it on a lift and it&#039;d transform the job completely!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
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		<title>File:15-syncro-prop-bush.jpg</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: Picture 15&lt;/p&gt;
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Picture 15&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Syncro prop shaft bush replacement</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[http://www.syncro.org/DriveShaft.htm See this:] &lt;br /&gt;
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Syncro Propshaft Poly Bush fitting &lt;br /&gt;
(to cure propshaft ringing at low speed/low revs clutch take up combination.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Aidan Talbot:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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September 2005&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the new replacement Poly bush as supplied by Gordon Craig in South Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:1syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Note the flanged end on the left needs slightly profiling in order to fit the space vacated by the O ring - I lightly sanded the edges off to give a better profile and facilitate fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:2syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I found I needed to hold the whole donut in a vice in order to undo the four Allen headed bolts holding the UJ and donut to the propshaft.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the bolts are undone and removed recover the four washers from between the donut and the propshaft and gently withdraw the whole assembly to leave you looking at the o ring and the two bronze bushes inside the prop&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:3syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the UJ, donut and shaft assembly that you have withdrawn from the prop.&lt;br /&gt;
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I marked the prop and the UJ with paint marks before disassembly so I could put it all back together in the same orientation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I didn’t remove the donut from the UJ as no need - it only meant that I couldn’t take a close look at the wear marks on the shaft bearing surface at it’s outer end. But I could feel the play when the bolts were undone before withdrawing the shaft from the prop.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:4syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:5syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Close inspection shows the wear on the bronze bush - there’s a swarf edge on the lower edge and the top edge has taken the shape of the o ring , being removed below&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:6syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So you can see clearly the extent of the top bush which is to be removed.&lt;br /&gt;
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I cleaned out most of the old grease then stuffed a clean tissue into the tube below the bush to catch the waste that will be created&lt;br /&gt;
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Using an old chisel I cut two parallel score marks down the inside of the bush about 10 mm apart&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:7syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Then carefully tapped a small bradawl between the bush and the shaft between the scored marks and broke out this section of the bush in stages &lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:8syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:9syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the section was removed the remains of the bush were easily removed, a very little light filing required to remove the slight burr caused by the back of the bradawl. Turning the prop upside down and pulling out the tissue removed most of the waste, a blast from the airline and more careful cleaning ensured that the remaining lower bearing was free from debris and ready for some clean moly grease.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:10syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:11syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The remains of the old bush and the new one - I checked to see that it fitted over the shaft ok before I removed the old one..hence the spots of grease on it&lt;br /&gt;
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With a little gentle persuasion the new bush is in.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:12syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A bit more time spent profiling the top lipped edge would have resulted in a better fit on the left hand side but rather than damage the bush trying to remove it I applied a little more thumb pressure which evened it up to the point where I felt it was acceptable and I was able to ease the shaft in without deforming the edge.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:13syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
The wear pattern on the machined bearing surface of the shaft can be clearly seen....its very even and fairly minimal, hopefully the new top bush and some fresh lubrication will ensure that this contact point doesn’t become problematic. This shaft has about 112,000 miles on it and I expect that it’s the first time that it has seen daylight since 1989.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:14syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I had no data for the torque setting for these bolts as this isn’t a normal procedure so I went with 33 ft/lbs which felt right and is the same as used for the drive shaft flange bolts which are a similar size and application. I didn’t use thread lock though there were clear signs that it was used originally. I’ll keep a close eye on the bolts tightness.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://club8090.co.uk/w/images/15syncro-prop-bush.jpg See this image:]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:15-syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Finished Prop ready for refitting&lt;br /&gt;
I didn’t have the prop rebalanced as the bushes weighed within a few grams of each other and are fitted close to the centre of the prop so I guessed the effect of the change to be negligible and I rebuilt the prop in exactly the same alignment as it was originally. I have marked it PB for poly bush. The red marks are the alignment marks I made at the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
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The newly bushed propshaft was carefully refitted to the van, checking the alignment of the gearbox, prop and front diff with a stringline...and the result is vibe free motoring and no more ringing prop at low speed/low revs clutch take up combination.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Syncro prop shaft bush replacement</title>
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		<updated>2025-11-01T17:31:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;HarryMann: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[http://www.syncro.org/DriveShaft.htm See this:] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Syncro Propshaft Poly Bush fitting &lt;br /&gt;
(to cure propshaft ringing at low speed/low revs clutch take up combination.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Aidan Talbot:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
September 2005&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the new replacement Poly bush as supplied by Gordon Craig in South Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:1syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note the flanged end on the left needs slightly profiling in order to fit the space vacated by the O ring - I lightly sanded the edges off to give a better profile and facilitate fitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:2syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I found I needed to hold the whole donut in a vice in order to undo the four Allen headed bolts holding the UJ and donut to the propshaft.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once the bolts are undone and removed recover the four washers from between the donut and the propshaft and gently withdraw the whole assembly to leave you looking at the o ring and the two bronze bushes inside the prop&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:3syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the UJ, donut and shaft assembly that you have withdrawn from the prop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I marked the prop and the UJ with paint marks before disassembly so I could put it all back together in the same orientation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I didn’t remove the donut from the UJ as no need - it only meant that I couldn’t take a close look at the wear marks on the shaft bearing surface at it’s outer end. But I could feel the play when the bolts were undone before withdrawing the shaft from the prop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:4syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:5syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Close inspection shows the wear on the bronze bush - there’s a swarf edge on the lower edge and the top edge has taken the shape of the o ring , being removed below&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:6syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So you can see clearly the extent of the top bush which is to be removed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I cleaned out most of the old grease then stuffed a clean tissue into the tube below the bush to catch the waste that will be created&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using an old chisel I cut two parallel score marks down the inside of the bush about 10 mm apart&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:7syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then carefully tapped a small bradawl between the bush and the shaft between the scored marks and broke out this section of the bush in stages &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:8syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:9syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once the section was removed the remains of the bush were easily removed, a very little light filing required to remove the slight burr caused by the back of the bradawl. Turning the prop upside down and pulling out the tissue removed most of the waste, a blast from the airline and more careful cleaning ensured that the remaining lower bearing was free from debris and ready for some clean moly grease.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:10syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:11syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The remains of the old bush and the new one - I checked to see that it fitted over the shaft ok before I removed the old one..hence the spots of grease on it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With a little gentle persuasion the new bush is in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:12syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A bit more time spent profiling the top lipped edge would have resulted in a better fit on the left hand side but rather than damage the bush trying to remove it I applied a little more thumb pressure which evened it up to the point where I felt it was acceptable and I was able to ease the shaft in without deforming the edge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:13syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
The wear pattern on the machined bearing surface of the shaft can be clearly seen....its very even and fairly minimal, hopefully the new top bush and some fresh lubrication will ensure that this contact point doesn’t become problematic. This shaft has about 112,000 miles on it and I expect that it’s the first time that it has seen daylight since 1989.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:14syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had no data for the torque setting for these bolts as this isn’t a normal procedure so I went with 33 ft/lbs which felt right and is the same as used for the drive shaft flange bolts which are a similar size and application. I didn’t use thread lock though there were clear signs that it was used originally. I’ll keep a close eye on the bolts tightness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://club8090.co.uk/w/images/15syncro-prop-bush.jpg See this image:]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:15syncro-prop-bush.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Finished Prop ready for refitting&lt;br /&gt;
I didn’t have the prop rebalanced as the bushes weighed within a few grams of each other and are fitted close to the centre of the prop so I guessed the effect of the change to be negligible and I rebuilt the prop in exactly the same alignment as it was originally. I have marked it PB for poly bush. The red marks are the alignment marks I made at the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newly bushed propshaft was carefully refitted to the van, checking the alignment of the gearbox, prop and front diff with a stringline...and the result is vibe free motoring and no more ringing prop at low speed/low revs clutch take up combination.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>HarryMann</name></author>
	</entry>
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