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Oil pressure switch

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Hi all,

Driving home tonight and the oil light came on :oops: Alarm bells rang out loud. Pulled over asap pulled lid off, all dry no leaks, water pipes at a good temperature. Checked oil half way between marks so drove off gingerly. Oil light then started flashing on and off. Then went off all together for ages then came on and off and flashing then off then on then off and didn't come back on.

Any ideas or similar experiences any one?

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Firstly check for damaged wires from the oil senders , brown wires .

You dont say what age or what engine
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Ah, Sorry forgot about that little detail! 

1.9 DG 1988 80K miles.

Yes the wire to the switch/sensor is brown. Should I replace it through to dash?

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Ok so with a ‘88 you have two oil pressure switches, one tween the push rods , which is basically for the low oil level / oil light and the other is down behind the water pump pulley , top of the oil filter , which is low pressure .
Both have brown wires which go from the switches to a white twin spade connector going to a yellow/red wire for the low pressure and a blue/black for the oil light, into the black box in the engine bay and then into the loom …….

First visually inspect the wiring in the engine bay , looking for damaged insulation and horrible green corrosion . Then check the connectors on each end of the brown wires for corrosion …….

Assuming all those checks find no faults, take the brown wire for the switch tween the push rod tubes and make it connect to ground ( engine / chassis ) the oil light should be either on , or off as you connect , disconnect .

The low pressure switch should only cause the oil light and buzzer to sound when the engine is above 2000rpm , so concentrate on the one tween the push rods
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Thanks for that most comprehensive explanation and to do list!

I'll look at the weekend and report back with findings. At least it sounds as though there isn't a serious problem so that's a sigh of relief! :rofl

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Obviously if there is no issue with the wiring , swapping out the switch is the next step , make sure you buy the correct one !!
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As Mocki said.
But might worth checking oil pressure with a gauge to be sure the light is not telling the truth.
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Well I have had a chance this afternoon to have a look and can confirm that both of the wires to the two switches are making contact all the way to the black box and that both are earth with ignition off. 
Assuming this is all how it should be then I guess as you say I need to be trying a new switch.

Not sure how you would test the pressure?

I get the bit about buying a good one! BW I guess?

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sump wrote: 10 Nov 2023, 18:18
Not sure how you would test the pressure?


Get an oil pressure meter gauge, thread in place of the sender and start the engine. Check the repair manual for test rpm and values.

BW is a good place to buy the switches, however your local motor factor should have them too.
https://brickwerks.co.uk/blog/vw-t3-oil ... -switches/
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From your original description i would get the switches changed before i spent out on a oil pressure check , oil pressure wouldnt have healed itself on the same journey i dont think , sounds like a electrical issue to me .

First rule of diagnosis is start at point “A” and move in a logical direction, always check out the lowest cost option rather than throw money about …..
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Sounds like wise advice thanks.  Maybe a silly question but I'll ask anyway!

When you unscrew the switch between the pushrods will the oil come out?

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Both switches shouldn't be closed with engine off, one is normally closed (blue, between pushrod tubes) and the other normally open (closes under pressure, either 0.9 or 1.8 bar, depending on stuff). Start engine, pressure opens blue switch, light goes out. Rev engine, if white/grey switch closes before 2000 rpm then no light or buzzer. If the BOD circuit doesn't see a closed switch at revs it'll shout up.

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Yes, but not enough to cry over , thats said , dont take forever , one out one in asap .
Take care when ordering new ones that you get the correct one…….. brickwerks , not crap car parts is my advice
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Thanks Steve

Will get one ordered ASAP. Brickwerks it is!

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You’ll need a long 24mm socket. You can do it with normal length socket you just can’t ‘house’ the ratchet lever because the spade terminal from the sensor will be there.
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