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I am sure there is a simple answer.
My wagon has been 'rollered' some time back using Rustoleum Combi Color. This paint can be thinned with white spirit.
Recently purchased Rustoleum aerosol primer 'cos my original paint has been thinned, with w/spirit, and was not covering some spots that well. The new primer, acetone based,  reacted with original paint.
I have some Halfords primer, acrylic based, might try that and see what happens.
Anyone any thoughts?
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Have a look at my recent posts on the paint my wagon sticky thread at the top.

I have had no problems with Rustoleum sticking to various different paints. This included some old Halfords grey primer I had lying about. And also, some rattle can colour paint from a paint shop, previous rollered paint, filler, vactan and probably various other concoctions.

So, definitely worth a shot, if it was reacting to the acetone based primer.

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I’m happy to be corrected but isn’t the thing with Rustoleum that because it’s basically a coach paint you can’t stick anything else on top of it? As I recall you either have to remove it by sanding or use a specialised barrier coating? So while It’s OK to paint Rustoleum on top of a cellulose, acrylic, epoxy, two pack base that’s been properly prepped you can’t use any other dissimilar  paint on top of it.
If it’s not the case I want the part of my youthful life back that I spent sanding the bog brush painted British Racing Green ‘coach paint’ off our Bay before spraying it with our little Apollo SprayMate in cellulose pastel white.
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sweetaswesty wrote: 23 May 2022, 07:16 I’m happy to be corrected but isn’t the thing with Rustoleum that because it’s basically a coach paint you can’t stick anything else on top of it? As I recall you either have to remove it by sanding or use a specialised barrier coating? So while It’s OK to paint Rustoleum on top of a cellulose, acrylic, epoxy, two pack base that’s been properly prepped you can’t use any other dissimilar  paint on top of it.
If it’s not the case I want the part of my youthful life back that I spent sanding the bog brush painted British Racing Green ‘coach paint’ off our Bay before spraying it with our little Apollo SprayMate in cellulose pastel white.

All paint on my wagon is Rustoleum.
New thought. I did not want to mask off 'bits' [lazy] as I was only touching up small area so I thought I would hold spray can near to avoid drift.
This resulted in paint going on thicker. When one normally uses a spray you hold it 12" or so away and get a light covering and it dries almost instantly hence drying before a reaction sets in. Spraying closely meant paint was wet for longer and maybe giving time to react.
Either way I have to do it again. More haste less speed.
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That would make sense - but just asking the question: isn't the reason you can't use other paints to paint over Rustoleum is because of the higher volatility carriers they use - like xylene, tuolene, acetone etc.? Because they can potentially break down, soften and even lift the Rustoleum? So Rustoleum in a can is a chemically different paint to Rustoleum in an aerosol if the carrier is acetone?
Spraying thinner quicker drying layers and allowing them to completely flash off in between coats would logically seem to be the best way to limit any potential reaction.
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sweetaswesty wrote: 23 May 2022, 09:05 That would make sense - but just asking the question: isn't the reason you can't use other paints to paint over Rustoleum is because of the higher volatility carriers they use - like xylene, tuolene, acetone etc.? Because they can potentially break down, soften and even lift the Rustoleum? So Rustoleum in a can is a chemically different paint to Rustoleum in an aerosol if the carrier is acetone?
Spraying thinner quicker drying layers and allowing them to completely flash off in between c
PS Why are you sitting at home answering this when you should be doing all the jobs that need doing
oats would logically seem to be the best way to limit any potential reaction.
Not thinking too much about it I assumed, wrongly, that Rustoleum is all the same. From your knowledgeable replies obviously it isn't.
The original Combi Color can be thinned with white spirit but the aerosol needs thinners to clean up. Aint life complicated.
I will probably end up going back to Avenue Paints and ordering another can of the original colour that they mixed up for me when I originally 'rollered' the van.
PS Why are you sitting there answering this instead of getting on with all those jobs that need doing. Like me this is easier than getting up and getting going.
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Ha, ha, how did you know! Just preparing myself to go out and contort myself into the crazy positions required to replace the tap on our Westy.
Avenue Paints might be a better source of advice than me also? Or confirm my tentative thoughts?
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