The project begins... welding worries
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Re: The project begins... welding worries
No,because both products are 2 pack, they will cure ok [all a low bake oven does is to accelerate the drying; all 2 packs will cure without undue printing in hours if the ambient temperature is good, say 20 degrees]
You should only thin water based paints with the manufacturers water; tap water will contain,depending which area you live in, limescale, chlorine etc and will contaminate the paint.
Most body shops, under the then 2 ton solvent emission laws [EPA] went over to water based paint. The limit has reduced more now though so most shops will have to use water-based paints. In 2005, which was when I got out of the trade, it was only the surface colours that were WB, the laquer coating on top was still solvent based, meaning that 2 coat pearlescents, metallics, and SCB [solid colour basecoats] all had a solvent 2 pack laquer put on top.
Most 'solid' colour vehicles now use SCB formats, which mean they are easier to match and blend, particularly reds and orange colours because they are metameric; they look fine in daylight but completely different under a streetlamp.
When I restore my van, I might well do it in a SCB 2 tone colour scheme. Yes, its more expensive, but the final finish can really be very nice.
You should only thin water based paints with the manufacturers water; tap water will contain,depending which area you live in, limescale, chlorine etc and will contaminate the paint.
Most body shops, under the then 2 ton solvent emission laws [EPA] went over to water based paint. The limit has reduced more now though so most shops will have to use water-based paints. In 2005, which was when I got out of the trade, it was only the surface colours that were WB, the laquer coating on top was still solvent based, meaning that 2 coat pearlescents, metallics, and SCB [solid colour basecoats] all had a solvent 2 pack laquer put on top.
Most 'solid' colour vehicles now use SCB formats, which mean they are easier to match and blend, particularly reds and orange colours because they are metameric; they look fine in daylight but completely different under a streetlamp.
When I restore my van, I might well do it in a SCB 2 tone colour scheme. Yes, its more expensive, but the final finish can really be very nice.
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Re: The project begins... welding worries
Me thinks that dependant on the product whilst most will cure in ambient the hardness for want of a better word is increased with a bake of say 72' IMHO
Sorry for dragging you along
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Yes, it will be cured enough after say a 30 minute bake and be nigh on ready to DA sand straight away, especially if you used a very fast hardener. Even so, I would not try to polish a very fresh paint film until the next day because it might get spoilt; we often painted cars in the booths onthe usual spray cycle last thing before closing and left them in the booth to air-dry overnight and they were always ready for a final flat and polish first thing in the morning. [We used to do a lot of prestige vehicles so the finish needed to be 100%] For what its worth, we often used 1500 grit dry in a DA or superfine wet, and then Farecla G3 on a slow foam headed mop; these gave excellent results.
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I used imron elite on mine as opposed to the water based ,no need for buffing out, we shine out the gun
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cheers mike
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Re: The project begins... welding worries
More photos of progress so far. I asked Russell about the existing seams and he confirmed that after blasting them as clean as possible, they are then treated with acid before being sealed and filled (not with lead).

The track for the sliding door has been cleaned up and a new strip for attaching the cover panel.

New wheel arch.

n/s sill needed a wee repair and some beefing up behind for the jacking point. All the sills etc have been Waxoyled as well.

The lower door track was replaced.

The panel behind the bumper was replaced as well - a typical rusty spot I'v been told.

The filler cap panel was surprisingly solid and only needed cleaned up a bit.

The old exhaust was non standard and looked weird, so its been replaced with a second hand one and the rear panel put back to its proper shape.
The van will soon be resprayed in cornflower blue (Karen's choice - shae always hated the beige) and then more fun and games putting at all back together again. Looking forward to it.
Cheers
Donald.

The track for the sliding door has been cleaned up and a new strip for attaching the cover panel.

New wheel arch.

n/s sill needed a wee repair and some beefing up behind for the jacking point. All the sills etc have been Waxoyled as well.

The lower door track was replaced.

The panel behind the bumper was replaced as well - a typical rusty spot I'v been told.

The filler cap panel was surprisingly solid and only needed cleaned up a bit.

The old exhaust was non standard and looked weird, so its been replaced with a second hand one and the rear panel put back to its proper shape.
The van will soon be resprayed in cornflower blue (Karen's choice - shae always hated the beige) and then more fun and games putting at all back together again. Looking forward to it.
Cheers
Donald.
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Re: The project begins... welding worries
They've cut some nice straight lines in the filler in the seams,
mike
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The Van is back and now all I need to do is fit the interior!
Looking great but spilling petrol all over the road when going round corners! Might need a new seal on the petrol cap. Loving the new cornflower blue colour... partner is going to customize with an image from Dark Side Of The Moon!




Looking great but spilling petrol all over the road when going round corners! Might need a new seal on the petrol cap. Loving the new cornflower blue colour... partner is going to customize with an image from Dark Side Of The Moon!




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Like the way they have painted in the door shuts, nothing worse than opening a door to see the original colour jump out at you
Mmm what's that strange smell from my exhaust...
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WHS ^^
Also - if your getting petrol leaks check your fuel tank for holes and check the breather pipes/boxes are connected
Also - if your getting petrol leaks check your fuel tank for holes and check the breather pipes/boxes are connected
It is by will alone that I set my 'van' in motion!
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Looking good, very interesting to follow.
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That's a nice looking paint job .
What's the colour called, or do you have the paint code?
Reason being, I plan to two-tone my van with a light blue lower colour and your colour looks the part.
Doug.
What's the colour called, or do you have the paint code?
Reason being, I plan to two-tone my van with a light blue lower colour and your colour looks the part.
Doug.
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looks brilliant, dnt mean to be rude but would you mind telling us how much this cost you??
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good colour that.............
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The colour is Cornflower Blue - but I don't know the code for it. Rus told me it was a bona fide VW colour so should be easy to track down.