diesel engines or petrol engines

General Technical Questions and Answers last answered over 1 year ago.
You may also want to visit the Wiki(pedia) for a more structured index of T25 repair, maintenance, technical and ownership topics

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Kool-Kamper

diesel engines or petrol engines

Post by Kool-Kamper »

this is prob in wrong place, sorry in advance

I was wondering if a diesel lump is worth getting?
I got a 1.9 dg at the mo, would I notice much difference?
and is £1900 good for a 'velle on a h plate
thanks in advance

Georgedog
Registered user
Posts: 193
Joined: 23 Oct 2006, 15:57

Post by Georgedog »

KK ..

which derv lump ... ????

+ what condition Velle ???

Kool-Kamper

Post by Kool-Kamper »

which derv lump ... ????

+ what condition Velle ???

1.6 turbo 5 speed box

ok ish, has a few rusty bits here and there, got square lights and big bumpers, interior quite clean




Is your DG in a van or do you have just the engine

it's in me camper-

User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9608
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

Post by HarryMann »

I think what matters really, is that whatever engine you go for, it is in tip top condition... a bad 1.9 is just as much a dog as a bad 1.6TD although with the diesel you have the turbo as well that must be in at least reasoanblle nick.

The ideal petrol engine some might say is the Subaru two-point-two, which usually survive 100,000 miles with many more to go without trouble, but it isn't particularly cheap to do the conversion.

The ideal diesel might be one of the VW 1.9 TDs, but again, only if it is in very good condition to start with. If you find one that seems to run cleanly and wel, has a FSH (esp. regular oil changes) and has less than 100,000 on it, then that would be worth transplanting.

We all hope and pray that someone will discover a few hundred brand new engines sitting on pallets somewhere, sometime soon, and sold off suitably cheaply :lol:

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

User avatar
ermie571
Registered user
Posts: 4970
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 11:11
80-90 Mem No: 2129
Location: Minster-on-Sea, Kent: Member 2129 07784052288

Post by ermie571 »

KK -
are you about to become a 2 van family????


We have just added van number 4, although it is sorned at the moment. But an Aircooled for £400 just couldn't be turned down.....

Good luck

Emma
2.1 DJ 1990 Caravelle (died and gone to heaven)
2.0 AGG (1997 ish) 1984 transporter LPG

User avatar
ermie571
Registered user
Posts: 4970
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 11:11
80-90 Mem No: 2129
Location: Minster-on-Sea, Kent: Member 2129 07784052288

Post by ermie571 »

Hi folks,

I could be guessing, but in another post KK says the mini has to go as she is looking at a caravelle.....

My non-technical take on the question was ....will I notice much difference between my DG vehicle (the camper - I know its a high top) and the diesel caravelle.

I think that is probably why it didn't start off in technical.

However, I could be wrong!!

Nice to see that as ever, there are people willing to give advice. :D

Emma
2.1 DJ 1990 Caravelle (died and gone to heaven)
2.0 AGG (1997 ish) 1984 transporter LPG

Kool-Kamper

Post by Kool-Kamper »

Just to clarify:

My camper has a 1.9 dg engine, all happy and dandy, keeping it.
Image


The velle I'm looking at has a 1.d turbo diesel lump, has had reg oil changes seems ok on paper.
Image



The mini has to be sold so I can buy said velle, husband will not let me have 3 vehicles. on ebay at mo.
Image


Have to sell mini quick as going to have look at velle in the morning.

All donations gratefully received!!!

and yes becoming 2 van family, probably all going well. maybe. possibly
.

Simon Baxter
Trader
Posts: 3116
Joined: 08 Oct 2005, 19:36
80-90 Mem No: 1
Location: Huddersfield, WeYo.
Contact:

Post by Simon Baxter »

Seems the 'velle you are looking at maybe a "Bus" and not a 'velle judging by the sticker on the front panel, the "bus" conversions left the factory as a kombi (Van with windows) and the interiors were built in this country by Devon or Advance, it should be badged as a transporter on the back.
Bare in mind that the interiors aren't usually as good as the earlier Caravelle.

1.6TD's are a good engine, but rarely serviced properly, once it's had a good going through and set up back to a state somewhere near where it left the factory they are really good engines, but suffer problems around the 100K mark.
But, I would have one of those any day over 1 wasserleaker, sorry wasserboxer.
Buy it, get the tappets set, the pump and cam timing done (with a new belt and tensioner) and have similar performance to a 1.9DG but revel in 30-35mpg without having to waste your underseat storage with a whacking great gas tank.
'86 VW T3 syncro panel
'89 VW T3 Westy Atlantic
'81 Porsche 924
SJ Baxter LTD/Brickwerks

User avatar
"WEAZLECHIN"
Registered user
Posts: 233
Joined: 13 Jan 2006, 09:58
80-90 Mem No: 0
Location: j9 m6. you know, traffic jam..

Post by "WEAZLECHIN" »

diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel. mpg and RELIABILITY. everything you need in a camper.

Simon Baxter
Trader
Posts: 3116
Joined: 08 Oct 2005, 19:36
80-90 Mem No: 1
Location: Huddersfield, WeYo.
Contact:

Post by Simon Baxter »

"WEAZLECHIN" wrote:diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel. mpg and RELIABILITY. everything you need in a camper.

I like the way you think... :lol:
'86 VW T3 syncro panel
'89 VW T3 Westy Atlantic
'81 Porsche 924
SJ Baxter LTD/Brickwerks

User avatar
matt
Registered user
Posts: 7761
Joined: 09 Oct 2005, 18:37
80-90 Mem No: 397
Location: #Derbados

Post by matt »

"WEAZLECHIN" wrote:diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel diesel. mpg and RELIABILITY. everything you need in a camper.




hehehhehheh, or 2.1!2.1!2.1!2.1!lpglpglplpglpg....mpg and speed, everyt'ing you need in a velle.......
without tempting fate do 25000 miles in 2 years in the dg,carbed daily driver camper not a failed yet, cept a replacement starter

are dervs really that more relaiable ???
:)

User avatar
"WEAZLECHIN"
Registered user
Posts: 233
Joined: 13 Jan 2006, 09:58
80-90 Mem No: 0
Location: j9 m6. you know, traffic jam..

Post by "WEAZLECHIN" »

my diesel sprinter has done nearly 600 000 miles, and i would trust it to drive anywhere "no problem" try that in a petrol motor. like shakespear said" dg or not dg". if i wanted speed i`d be going for a lambourghini murcialago not a vw plumbers van.
so i think the answer has to be a resounding YES. after all if im not mistaken they stopped fitting petrol motors in trucks in 1936. . .for some reason.

User avatar
matt
Registered user
Posts: 7761
Joined: 09 Oct 2005, 18:37
80-90 Mem No: 397
Location: #Derbados

Post by matt »

true, but the sprinter design is 15 years newer

are the rice burners in transporters good for 600,000 ?
I've known as many folks have trouble with dervs as petrol
mind you these have been maimly used off road

and a Velle aint a plumbers van, the modern version, the T5 caravelle exec
is £41,000.........

And lets see the sprinter in 20 years time !
:)

Locked